strawberrylover
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Post by strawberrylover on Sept 4, 2007 11:25:41 GMT -4
Jack Nicholson's had quite the strange family: the woman he grew up calling his sister was actually his mother and his 'mother' was actually his grandmother. He didn't even find out about it till 1974 when Time magazine were doing a feature on him (and both had already passed on). Are you sure that's not just studio-generated gossip to market Chinatown?
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SluttyMary
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Post by SluttyMary on Sept 4, 2007 11:59:15 GMT -4
So can anyone recommend any good books about the old Hollywood divas?
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heyalice
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Post by heyalice on Sept 4, 2007 12:03:12 GMT -4
Thank you pomegranate! This thread is like crack. I just bought the Lee Server bio on Ava Gardner. I remember reading the Hollywood Babylon books years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2007 12:33:26 GMT -4
I always thought Barbara and Robert were both gay, and their marriage was a studio-arranged cover up. Can't remember where I heard it, though, so I'm probably wrong! Robert Taylor played pickup ball for both teams. When Mr. Taylor was in Camille with Greta Garbo, he was very young and beautiful and a virgin (hetero). Miss Garbo and the director were very frustrated with the film's rushes because Mr. Taylor was just a stick (and in the bad way). He didn't know what to do with Miss Garbo and the passion in their scenes was so very lacking. So Miss Garbo sacrificed all for her craft and her movie and invited Mr. Taylor over to her house for the evening. He stayed for breakfast for the rest of the movie and the love scenes in the movie livened up. Mr. Taylor was one of those closeted Republicans (still in evidence in Washington, D. C. and elsewhere today) who was a Red Hater and Baiter and Gay Chaser (but in the politically correct Republican way). In his middle age, he ratted out his politically incorrect fellow actors to the House Committee on Un-American activities and he prosecuted his fellow gay actors with the loss of their jobs and outing. And Mr. Taylor did know who the fellow gays were, he knew them intimately. Human Nature does trump all: the most virulent anti-gays are closeted gays. True then and still true now.
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sugaree
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Post by sugaree on Sept 4, 2007 12:40:02 GMT -4
Jack Nicholson's had quite the strange family: the woman he grew up calling his sister was actually his mother and his 'mother' was actually his grandmother. He didn't even find out about it till 1974 when Time magazine were doing a feature on him (and both had already passed on). Are you sure that's not just studio-generated gossip to market Chinatown? Nope, it's the truth. The same thing happened to Eric Clapton and Ted Bundy. Unlike Clapton, Nicholson never did find out who his father was.
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Post by MrsCatHead on Sept 4, 2007 12:42:49 GMT -4
Does anyone know about the rumor that Kirk Douglas sexually assaulted Natalie Wood or another of his costars? Speaking of Natalie Wood...does anyone think that rumor is true about her finding Chris Walken and RJ, um, "together," on the boat? And that is why she freaked out and drunkenly tried to leave in the dinghy?
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Karen
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Post by Karen on Sept 4, 2007 12:47:56 GMT -4
Does anyone know about the rumor that Kirk Douglas sexually assaulted Natalie Wood or another of his costars? I was going to ask about that. A biographer of Natalie's wrote about how she'd been violently raped by a big star when she was a teenager and couldn't say anything because of her career. The biographer refused to name him and, I think, just said that he was alive at the time the book was written. I saw Douglas mentioned as a possibility once because apparently he'd talked about having anger issues and problems with women in the 50s. Does anyone know more about what Douglas was like in those days? So can anyone recommend any good books about the old Hollywood divas? I know who I won't recommend: Jane Ellen Wayne. I bought one of her books and it repeated gossip as fact and overall had an unprofessional, sensationalist approach. But I liked James Spada's Bette Davis biography.
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pomegranate
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Post by pomegranate on Sept 4, 2007 13:35:14 GMT -4
So can anyone recommend any good books about the old Hollywood divas? Ava Gardner, Lana Turner, Sophia Loren, Jane Russel, and Ginger Rogers all wrote very good autobiographies, and I'm sure you could find most of them at the library. I would definetly recommed starting with Ava's. It is mostly very funny and easy to read, although I haven't been able to watch a George C. Scott film since. He was homicidal as a drunk and almost killed her several times, one time he straddled her head and held a smashed bottle against her throat. Not exactly Patton-like behavior.
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SluttyMary
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Post by SluttyMary on Sept 4, 2007 13:48:48 GMT -4
Oh, thanks guys! Can't wait to get started. I love stuff like this.
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lexylou
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Post by lexylou on Sept 4, 2007 14:07:19 GMT -4
Whoa, Jean Spangler was real? I just read The Song is You, and had no idea! Megan Abbot's books are so good, there's only 3 so far.
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