mementomori
Landed Gentry
Leaning Into Impermanence
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Feb 3, 2013 0:34:44 GMT -4
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Post by mementomori on Mar 27, 2015 0:07:09 GMT -4
Fucking YUCK!
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Mar 27, 2015 11:07:58 GMT -4
At this point, this isn't surprising. Manhattan is a movie glorifying a grown man's sexual relationship with a teenage girl and making it seem totally romantic and normal. And Mariel Hemingway was gorgeous in it (she's still beautiful). I guess I'm a little shocked her parents were ok with this, but money and fame will make some people put their kids in horrible situations Thank you! At the time it was considered so cute and quaint - aw, check out nebbishy little Woody and his gorgeous shiksa teenage girlfriend - and I never understood how people were not squicked out by that. And he kept throwing young girls in as potential love interests (Juliette Lewis, Emily Lloyd, Elisabeth Shue, Mira Sorvino)for years, going all out for "Whatever Works". I think these two quotes from Esquire - after Dylan Farrow went public in the NY Times - really say it all: "That idea: that sexual exploitation and education are conjoined also runs through the Allen canon. In Whatever Works (2009), the Allen character (played by Larry David) marries a childlike twenty-one-year-old, returning to the basic romantic situation that has motivated Allen's work from the beginning, and which you can see even in Annie Hall (1977): A man educates the women he sleeps with. He raises them. Once they're raised, he's no longer interested." And: "What the hell have we been watching all this time?" EWWW! And I never thought about it, but it's in Hannah and her Sisters too! Barbara Hershey hanging out with much older Max Von Sydow... and then trading him in for still older Michael Caine. And they're both always trying to teach her something and educate her to their tastes or philosophies. With her first guy, it was implied that he had been her professor when she was in college. Which it isn't quite as gross as the Manhattan situation, since she would have at least been 18 or 19. But her professor was still in that position of authority, so still squicky. And Max even says something about maybe he's taught her all there is to teach her... which is ok in a professor/ student relationship... but they were also lovers! That situation isn't exactly the same since its the woman who picks and chooses between her men rather than them dumping her once they've 'taught her all they can'. But what IS it with Allen's obsession with this particular relationship dynamic. Also, super gross about Hannah and her Sisters- which, sadly, is still one of my favorite movies, grossness aside. In the last scene, they're having Thanksgiving and I swear Soon-Yi is sitting at the kids table. She's not listed in the credits, although some of the other kids are, but I'm pretty sure she is there for a brief second, just sitting with the other kids. Even if she isn't there, she would have been around on set and still YOUNG ENOUGH TO SIT AT THE KIDS TABLE when this movie was made. And there's her future husband flailing around, directing and acting coming up with stories of much older men macking on young, naive women and one of them cheating on Mia Farrow. Yikes and YUCK!
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Post by Hamatron on Mar 27, 2015 11:15:02 GMT -4
Yeah. I've never really been able to enjoy Woody Allen movies because the scandal happened when I was a kid and whenever I watch one of his flicks I just see him acting out or directing his sexual fears and fantasies.
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Post by Neurochick on Mar 27, 2015 13:14:40 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 14:34:18 GMT -4
Yeah. I've never really been able to enjoy Woody Allen movies because the scandal happened when I was a kid and whenever I watch one of his flicks I just see him acting out or directing his sexual fears and fantasies. Same here, I've never been able to see him as anything other than a perverted old man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 14:49:38 GMT -4
Same. I cannot separate the man from the art, and I have no desire to try.
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Post by Ladybug on Mar 28, 2015 10:14:00 GMT -4
That was a great article. Completely spot on about Allen.
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mmmkrimpets
Landed Gentry
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Jan 10, 2009 20:28:00 GMT -4
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Post by mmmkrimpets on Mar 28, 2015 18:55:10 GMT -4
I noticed that too and lo and behold she is.
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nemmie
Lady in Waiting
Newb alert.
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Apr 23, 2013 13:38:35 GMT -4
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Post by nemmie on Mar 28, 2015 19:20:06 GMT -4
That's a great article. I love Manhattan, but for Gordon Willis' shots alone (the story always grossed me out). Now I feel like I can't even enjoy that anymore Disgusting what a predator he was. Is. Gawd, it's just all so awful.
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Post by discoprincess on Mar 29, 2015 22:23:17 GMT -4
Disgusting what a predator he was. Is. Gawd, it's just all so awful. Well, he hasn't traded in Soon-Yi for a younger model yet.
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