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Post by Ninja Bunny on Nov 20, 2014 1:45:42 GMT -4
Hey, bananas prove God. That's as profound as he gets. (He was actually cackling at how "smart" he was.) Ah, yes. The Banana Fallacy. Kirkles needs to go here and read up on why he's not as smart about bananas as he thinks he is.
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Post by kateln on Nov 21, 2014 20:28:18 GMT -4
Hey, bananas prove God. That's as profound as he gets. (He was actually cackling at how "smart" he was.) Ah, yes. The Banana Fallacy. Kirkles needs to go here and read up on why he's not as smart about bananas as he thinks he is. Ah ninjabunny, if he reads then he opens his mind up to new ideas...then his little pea brain might explode.
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Post by smitten on Nov 21, 2014 22:31:01 GMT -4
My in laws and all their "church family" are very fundamentalist. My MIL was raised in Church of Christ. Think the Footloose family, for reals. Mr s was raised in a toned down version of this, but everyone of his church family that I'm friends with on FB are all tea partiers/super conservative/praise Kirk Cameron.
I'm not shocked that this movie is so far from the bible when it comes to consumerism. You should see some of these people's houses and "man caves". This is why I get cold sweats when mr s and I try to find a church to go to. I'm very spiritual, but I hate what most Christians are, which is a very uncomfortable position to be in. How do I find out what the community of a church actually believes in? Is it hate - like so many preach now - or love, which is what I believe in
Off topic probably, but this douche just represents so much about what I hate about religion. Yet he loved by the people my Husband grew up with and who represents his church family and community. It's hard to explain the tough spot I find myself in.
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Post by Neurochick on Nov 22, 2014 22:46:05 GMT -4
I hear you smitten. The problem is that many churches have very little to do with the teachings of Jesus; they're more social clubs.
Look, when I visit my family in the South, I realize that if I lived down there, I would have zero social life unless I joined a church and if I joined a church, I'd probably be pressured to "couple up" so as to be just like everybody else.
Social clubs, that's what a lot of churches have become.
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Post by chonies on Nov 22, 2014 23:34:54 GMT -4
I hear you smitten. The problem is that many churches have very little to do with the teachings of Jesus; they're more social clubs. Look, when I visit my family in the South, I realized that if I lived down there, I would have zero social life unless I joined a church and if I joined a church, I'd probably be pressured to "couple up" so as to be just like everybody else. Social clubs, that's what a lot of churches have become. Since living in the South, I've wondered what came first--the church or the social aspect. I kind of suspect that a lot of it is interdependent, with spread out, sparsely populated towns benefiting from the social networks provided by the churches, which are generally segregated by custom and history for people from the same socioeconomic and ethnic backgrounds. It would also explain a lot of the Bible Belt's issues with " Churchianity." When we moved to this particular small town, we weren't particularly pressured to join a church, but there were enough weird vibes that I finally asked someone if we *should*, for the sake of socializing, and this got mixed answers, especially generating "not really" and "it couldn't hurt" or even, "it might help." Also, someone from a different faculty department, acting on behalf of his church but using their shared employment as an introduction, came to "call" on Mr Cho a few months after we arrived. It was actually kind of amusing--it was dusk, there was a dimly lit porch, a storm a-brewin' and my tattooed spouse looming in the doorway in his lawn-mowing clothes. "Would you like to visit with us next Sunday at XYZ Baptist?" <pause> "No." [door creaks shut].
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 10:58:59 GMT -4
We're not homophobic, we're sinophobic (spelling may vary as this is not a real word) You know what is a real word? Hamartophobia, which is the Irrational fear of error or sin. So guess what assholes? If you have what you call "sinophobia" then you have a problem you might want to get checked out. In other, more heartwarming news, Kirk is now begging his followers to offset his Rotten ratings: LINK The tactic worked for a while but then those nasty haters and atheists had to go and ruin it. Bill Maher (hater and atheist): "I don't know if there is a hell, but if there is, on the trip to get there the inflight movie must be Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas."
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Post by thneed on Nov 23, 2014 12:07:28 GMT -4
Begging people to see your movie out of obligation. Relying on tired culture war affiliation for your entertainment. That's a good place to be in.
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Post by Augustus on Nov 23, 2014 17:03:25 GMT -4
Sinophobia does exist, it means Anti-Chinese. So if you're indeed sinophobic, it means you're "only" racist towards Asians.
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Nov 23, 2014 18:05:37 GMT -4
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Post by kostgard on Nov 23, 2014 18:48:40 GMT -4
Kirkles is "phobic" (there's probably a more accurate word to use here) about anyone who doesn't think exactly like he does and doesn't interpret the Bible exactly how he does. And then gets all pissy when someone calls him on his shit and acts the victim, saying we're infringing on his religious rights. Yeah, we should all be more tolerant about your prejudice.
I remember going to the Way of the Master website several years ago and they had a quiz where you can see if you are a good person, bound for heaven. I answered honestly at first, and Kirkles told me I was going straight to hell. No surprise. So I took it again, answering just like a good saintly Christian would, and Kirkles still told me I was headed straight to hell. Why? Because I wasn't following The Way of the Master. That was the only way to get to heaven.
Comparisons to Scientology aside (who also quizzes potential followers who will always get a "bad" result that only Scientology can help you fix) it shows his "my way or the highway" mindset. His stupid movie is not about putting the Christ back in Christmas, it was about celebrating Christmas the way Kirkles thinks you should. And that's apparently with a shit-ton of presents, ham and butter. Any worry about poor people just makes the baby Jesus cry.
I have an aunt who is an Episcopal priest. On Facebook she posted something that said "If you want to keep Christ in Christmas, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome the unwelcomed, forgive the guilty, care for the ill and do unto others what you would have done to you." Kirkles would probably sit her down to lecture her about how Jesus wants everyone to shop and drink hot chocolate.
And yes, ordering your minions to basically hit a "like" button a million times for something that is ultimately meaningless is pretty pathetic. Kirkles, you made a shitty movie with a message that was completely baffling and the polar opposite of what most consider the "true" meaning of Christmas. Move along and find another way to scare more money out of your followers.
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