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Post by Oxynia on Jun 10, 2018 15:06:06 GMT -4
This forum is, at its heart, a place for celebrity snark so topics of fashion among those who play that game are up for grabs. It's not a question of judging women on superficial measures, nor does it detract from anyone's accomplishments when Greecies have something negative to say about a celeb's choice of wardrobe when doing public things in public places for the sake of being seen. That's neither sexist nor reductionist. It's snark, pure and simple.
We also don't disparage others on this board for their opinions, regardless of how much we may disagree. Your mods work hard to keep this a haven of civility, so please refrain from criticizing your fellow Greecies for their view on celebrities, or painting them into a corner where they feel the need to defend themselves. It's not how we do things here.
Carry on.
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Post by ladyboy on Jun 10, 2018 16:26:05 GMT -4
Kind of off topic to George Clooney but on topic to talking about female wardrobe: I feel that Clinton's wardrobe during the campaign was kind of more relevant to be critiqued/analyzed, as it created part of her image as a candidate and sent non-verbal messages, whether she meant it to or not. I don't have any specific outfits in mind, but generally the more prominent and visible your role, the more your attire is part of your 'brand'.
OT: Someone told me that the original Ocean's Eleven is 25 years old. REALLY??
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Post by madangela on Jun 10, 2018 16:42:31 GMT -4
George Clooney received some award last night. His wife gave a speech about him. Her speech seemed lovely except for the part where she says she thought that at 35 she would be a spinster and then in walked George Clooney into her life. I hate the word spinster. I hate that someone like her, who is as successful and smart as she is, would even hint that being single is seen as negatively. I know she meant it as a joke and I'm about to get my period but this one really bugs me. As successful as I am in my career, my success in life is always measured to "when am I getting married" and to hear Amal say "spinster at 35" just really pisses me off. Yeah I’m not on my period and that annoys me. Signed, Currently a 35 year old woman with no prospective husbands in sight. I’m an old married lady who married at 36 ( thank god! /s) and it pisses ME off. PS the original original Ocean’s Eleven is something like 50 years old. Interesting how heists never get old.
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Post by madangela on Jun 10, 2018 16:48:46 GMT -4
Well the cynical side of me is thinking Amal was raised in Britain where boring flat brown shoes are flying off the shelf because a B list American actress who landed and married Prince Harry was seen in them. Maybe they are just relieved to have an excuse to buy comfortable shoes. Not that anyone should need an excuse.
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Post by Ginger on Jun 10, 2018 16:52:39 GMT -4
Kind of off topic to George Clooney but on topic to talking about female wardrobe: I feel that Clinton's wardrobe during the campaign was kind of more relevant to be critiqued/analyzed, as it created part of her image as a candidate and sent non-verbal messages, whether she meant it to or not. I don't have any specific outfits in mind, but generally the more prominent and visible your role, the more your attire is part of your 'brand'. I would agree if there were an equal analysis of the wardrobes of male candidates, but there never is. When I think of the amount of thought and effort Hillary and her handlers have been putting into her wardrobe for 26 - just so people wouldn't actively hate her for how she looks - I know it's not fair. Hillary of 1992 wore headbands and Dress Barn suits and it was as if she committed a crime that she has never been forgiven for. She gave a landmark speech in 1994 and had to wear a pink suit and perfectly coiffured hair in order to be taken seriously. And the flip side of the coin when women in public life do go out of their way to dress in a way that pleases people, they are eviscerated for spending too much money on clothes.
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Post by ladyboy on Jun 10, 2018 19:27:51 GMT -4
I agree completely, but men have the Uniform of the Suit and if a candidate started wearing something outside of the typical corporate generic suit, then they would be critiqued/analyzed. Celebs step outside the typical suit and are critiqued. Imagine Ted Cruz in a vivid plaid skinny doublebreasted suit. (Or, maybe, don't...) I don't think it's RIGHT that women are analyzed for their attire and men get to disappear in a navy suit, but that's how it currently is unfortunately. A man's suit is also sending a message, that of Professional Competent Man. As a society we just don't question that message but just read it from the suit. Women don't have a Uniform to stick on and disappear into the way the man's suit functions as a signifier in society.
ETA: Maybe we have uniforms but they are not corporate/professional ones - we have the uniform of lingerie, to signify our sexual beings, and usually in a subservient role, the uniform of the Mom (yoga pants?), etc. I actually have to step into Mom role and put a kid to bed now so I have to put on my yoga pants and end this post... PS I don't wear yoga pants outside of yoga...
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Post by narm on Jun 11, 2018 2:03:00 GMT -4
I rather like her crazy-ass sense of style. She's hella whimsical. I feel like it's an outlet for her as her job sounds so damn serious.
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Post by discoprincess on Jun 11, 2018 9:14:16 GMT -4
I would agree if there were an equal analysis of the wardrobes of male candidates, but there never is. I remember hearing that much was made about Nixon's wardrobe vs. Kennedy's in their televised debate. I agree completely, but men have the Uniform of the Suit and if a candidate started wearing something outside of the typical corporate generic suit, then they would be critiqued/analyzed. Celebs step outside the typical suit and are critiqued. Imagine Ted Cruz in a vivid plaid skinny doublebreasted suit. (Or, maybe, don't...) The media snarked on Marco Rubio's heels. (I bet some Greecies did too!)
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Post by scarlet on Jun 11, 2018 10:33:18 GMT -4
OT: Someone told me that the original Ocean's Eleven is 25 years old. REALLY?? No--it was released in 2001, so 17 years.* I have to say, career-wise, I'm really impressed with Clooney. He didn't immediately ditch ER when he become the breakout star and he's made some damn good movies over the years--both in just popcorn fare and more serious stuff. He can be a tad insufferable at times, but on a sliding scale of celebs that piss me off, he's pretty low on the list. *But, holy shit, how is 2001 17 years ago? ?? /old
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Post by chitowngirl on Jun 11, 2018 12:14:34 GMT -4
I rather like her crazy-ass sense of style. She's hella whimsical. I feel like it's an outlet for her as her job sounds so damn serious. Agreed! And we don’t really see her when she’s in work mode. I imagine it’s a lot of tailored, conservative pieces. When it’s the Met Ball or Royal wedding? Let loose a bit!
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