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Post by lea1977 on May 30, 2015 0:14:12 GMT -4
I liked Jen with Michael Vartan.
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mmmkrimpets
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Post by mmmkrimpets on May 30, 2015 0:38:13 GMT -4
Was that real or a combo rebound/PR/save face? There was that whole Daredevil/Gigli/Monster In Law period where Bennifer 1 crashed and burned and Bennifer 2 rose from the ashes 5 minutes later and the exes got together and made a flick.
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Post by canuckcutie on May 30, 2015 6:16:37 GMT -4
Didn't Gwyneth famously say that his ideal woman was a strippper who brought him beer? She probably wasn't far off from the truth.
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Post by cancan on May 30, 2015 8:48:36 GMT -4
Then I hope he gets back with J.Lo. See, I was kind of hoping J. Lo would get back with Puffy. It seems that Puffy longed for J. Lo, who longed for Ben. (For whom did Ben yearn though?) Matt Damon. I would love to see Ben and J.Lo back together. They seem perfect for each other, brains- and personality-wise, and the tabloids would just be SO GREAT. And maybe they can find a way to top the Jenny from the Block video.
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Post by tortuga on May 30, 2015 8:49:25 GMT -4
(For whom did Ben yearn though?) It seems Ben only yearns for himself and his own happiness.
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Post by plush on May 30, 2015 8:49:31 GMT -4
After so many years of reading celebrity gossip I think I can separate tabloid fiction from maybe something really happening in the background as I'm sure many people on this board can. I've always thought Ben Affleck had issues with gambling and women and both are straining his relationship with his wife. But I think both could have been avoided if he knew and embraced himself for what he is and never gotten married. After all, he's not really gambling away his fortune, he's going to Vegas to play and that's not different from the regular Joe who spends his weekends in Vegas or AC, albeit with higher stakes. Some people even enjoy this type of activity and do it together as a couple. And if monogamy is not for him then he should have never married and screwed every model, waitress and actress to his dick's content. Leo may be a skeeve, but people rag on him not because he sleeps around but because the women he sleeps with are always very young. One thing people agree on is that Leo is smart enough to not bring a wife and kids into his life and inflict misery on them for not being faithful. He knows himself and he has embraced himself for what he is and what he cannot be and that's OK.
The problem with Ben I think is that he's conflicted. He enjoys the adrenaline that a new relationship and gambling gives just as he lives for the praise and validation of the industry. He also loves his family and his problem is that he needs to choose between the two but he doesn't want to. Both sides are very much Ben and I'm sure there's a lot of self loathing happening with him for not helping himself. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit.
I don't think there's a single woman Ben has loved enough to give up his ways. Or at least he hasn't met her yet. As for Jen, while I do admire her tenacity for fighting to keep her family together, I don't respect or admire her for staying with him. Perhaps it it happens once I could understand. But it has happened repeatedly at this point and these pap strolls do more harm than good because they seem very staged. I think she's turned into Demi Moore towards the end of her relationship with Ashton where she would need actual evidence splashed in the tabs to file for divorce.
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Post by Babycakes on May 30, 2015 9:08:58 GMT -4
I just don't get what Jennifer needs to make her walk away. In every candid I've seen of Ben the past decade, he's looked miserable when he's with her and the kids. Not surly due to paps invading their space, more like, "Get me the fuck out of here." He never looks like that alone, or when he's on set, or hanging out with his friends. Only with his wife and kids.
He probably felt that he needed the image rehab. Hell, he probably thought that Jen Garner was just the type of woman he needed in his life to make him a better man. But deep down, he isn't a ready to be that person. He should have embraced who he really was, and saved the whole marriage and kids things for when he was old, grey, and finished sowing his wild oats. Now he just looks like an asshole who wants to chew his arm off to get away.
I will say that they are doing a fine job with the kids. They look very happy and don't seem to be affected by the tension between their parents. More than likely, they will divorce, and Ben will trot his kids out for red-carpets appearance for his image(his is the new Batman afterall). And Jen will be the full-time parent with primary custody doing the heavy lifting parenting wise. I think she'll do her best to keep the messiest stuff out of the tabs to protect the kids, and to try and save face. I don't think she'll embrace the heartbroken wife angle. I see her going for strong, stoic, and brave. Her tabloid covers won't be anything like Jen Aniston's.
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Post by alpierce on May 30, 2015 9:29:29 GMT -4
Then I hope he gets back with J.Lo. See, I was kind of hoping J. Lo would get back with Puffy. It seems that Puffy longed for J. Lo, who longed for Ben. (For whom did Ben yearn though?) Some people over on Lipstick Alley were speculating that when J. Lo kept mentioning Ben in interviews (whether it was about her book or whatever) that she was sending out subliminal messages. I think if that were to happen it may be the biggest tabloid story since the demise of Brad and Jen and the rise of Brangelina. It was clear that she was mad for Ben back when she filmed Daredevil with him, when she was still married to Scott. I liked Jennifer Garner and Scott Foley together! [/ Felicityfan4lyfe] Not that I follow this much, but a few thoughts from a guy's perspective. He's not ever getting back with J-lo unless he does something really stupid to piss off Garner, and I just don't see that happening. And that is assumming J-lo would take back his sorry ass (although I have no reservations believing J-lo would divorce or break up with someone she was in Lurve with to trade up), and that he actually wanted to. Garner ain't lettin' go. I would be willing to bet that he thinks that J-lo is the kind you screw around and have fun with and Garner is the kind you marry. It may be sexist and chauvinistic, but alot of guys think this way. What you may see as a strained relationship may be his loathing of photographers of any kind, especially when he is with his wife and/or kids. He may be having that gut reaction (come guys, I'm with my effing FAMILY) to when he was miserable with J-lo for publicizing every facet of their relationship, and I think Garner, to some extent does this as well, just not to J-lo levels. as always IMHO (but I'm probably right > )
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Post by prisma on May 30, 2015 10:43:15 GMT -4
Didn't Gwyneth famously say that his ideal woman was a stripper who brought him beer? She probably wasn't far off from the truth. True. But it's funny how similar Ben and Gwyneth are. They're both big babies who are unbelievably insecure and want to be petted like kittens and fawned over by everyone and can't take criticism. Ben's heavy handed intellectual speak when he was doing his Oscar pole dance sounded a lot like Gwyneth and her tendency to deploy 50-cent words to show us how intellectual she is.
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Post by Ginger on May 30, 2015 10:46:39 GMT -4
I liked Jen with Michael Vartan. I had a bit of a crush on Vartan back in the day, but I'm a little wary. He got married at 43 and divorced at 45. Vartan's much less famous so we don't know what his problems are, but God knows what could be going on there. Ben's ice bucket challenge - Ben and Jen could fake their cuteness, but they can't fake those little girls laughing in the background. I'm sure wanting to keep their family together is a huge factor in them staying together.
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