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Post by Ginger on Mar 24, 2015 20:18:22 GMT -4
Hers was the first scandal post 9/11, so I think it was something people could latch onto to escape what had happened and talk about something else, it that makes sense. And it wasn't rape or murder, it was such a weird crime for a celebrity to commit, and that was back when Winona was still somewhat relevant as an actress.
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Post by Hamatron on Mar 24, 2015 21:51:55 GMT -4
Yeah. She basically got busted around the "peak" of her downfall. She had been an Oscar contender for years even though she was an incredibly weak actress with very small range (she can be fine in the right role, but period dramas did her no favors) and around that time she had starred in some really bad rom-coms of dubious content. It was perfect timing, people were super over her at that point, and there she was, in the spotlight for doing something shitty.
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Post by orangeslice on Mar 25, 2015 21:19:14 GMT -4
I used to love her in movies when she first came out, I found something so adorable about her in the odd movies she initially picked, but when she did Dracula and Age of Innocence all of that good will went away. It was hard to watch and incredibly hard to listen to her accents for both movies. Dracula was over the top all the way around and she was the weakest link, but the movie itself had issues. Age of Innocence was could have been a great movie instead of just good if she were removed. I think she'll benefit better in ensemble pieces, where she isn't the main character
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Post by Mutagen on Mar 26, 2015 7:18:48 GMT -4
Dracula was pretty terrible all around. Really the only parts I enjoyed were a) Gary Oldman going OTT and b) the score by Wojciech Kilar, which is legitimately great. Some tracks are still on my iPod.
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Post by eclair on Mar 26, 2015 9:09:24 GMT -4
I really enjoyed the Simpson parody of that version of Dracula, especially where Dracula's shadow is doing yo-yo tricks. But yeah, Winona wasn't alone in being miscast there. Keanu, bless his heart, was terrible too. But very sweet on set. Richard E. Grant wrote about working on that film in his bio With Nails. Keanu met him when he arrived, was super sweet, and was trying to get everyone to go by their middle name, if I recall correctly. Haven't read the book in a few years.
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Post by Kaleidoscope Eyes on Mar 26, 2015 11:02:56 GMT -4
I remember when she did a interview with Vogue or Cosmo or some magazine like that for Dracula. It was a pretty lengthy article and the entire thing was about what a difficult emotional period she was going through while filming and how awful everything was on set. She said she had insomnia for most of the shoot and it just didn't didn't sound like she had any coping skills. I was a huge fan when Dracula and Age of Innocence came out and was so disappointed to realize that her range as an actress was rather limited. Then she and Johnny Depp split up and she hooked up with Dave Pirner and my crush was never the same. 20 year old me really shipped those two. I wanted them and River Phoenix and Martha Plimpton to stay together forever.
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Post by chonies on Mar 26, 2015 13:38:18 GMT -4
Well, Martha Plimpton is still incredibly cool. <consoling shoulder pats>
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Post by Auroranorth on Mar 26, 2015 13:43:00 GMT -4
I tried to watch Age of Innocence but Winona and Michelle's casting just didn't fit. May was supposed to be a statuesque blonde and Ellen a somewhat waify brunette. Teeny Winona as May did not work, and neither did Michelle as Ellen.
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Post by Kaleidoscope Eyes on Mar 26, 2015 13:50:06 GMT -4
That she is, chonies, that she is. Plimpton is one of the few celebs whose twitters I'll occasionally check on. Also, when I had a short-lived twitter account, I tweeted her and she tweeted back one word to me: Hilar! I might not have merited the full word, but I took what I could get (with an exclamation point!) and enjoyed the validation.
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Post by Ginger on Mar 26, 2015 15:26:22 GMT -4
People still blame Francis Ford Coppola for being a meanie to Winona during Dracula, but I’m pretty sure that was mostly her being a drama queen.
What’s funniest about that early-90s era is that everyone seemed to be under a mass delusion that she was a good actress. She kept getting Oscar nominations. I think it was mostly the artsy, intellectual persona she put forth and the directors she worked with that made people think she must be good. It took a few years for everyone to realize…wait, actually she sucks.
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