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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 19:58:32 GMT -4
The link posted has all of Julie's deleted blog entries, including the one titled "In Support of Pennmommy." Doh! Julie deleted that for a reason and the GWOP mods spend countless hours deleting any reference to the scam artist known as pennmommy on their blog - except this one. Time to do some comment cleaning and make it all disappear again.
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Post by thingee on Oct 5, 2009 21:24:47 GMT -4
For those of us who were late to this ridiculous party, could someone give us a rundown of the Pennmommy scandal? I can't seem to put it together from the cryptic comments out there.
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cantienne
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Post by cantienne on Oct 5, 2009 23:29:51 GMT -4
I'll give it a whirl.
Pennmommy started a blog in August or September of last year. The blog was linked on GWoP , and traffic started to show up from multiple Gosselin sites. Pennmommy claimed to have been a volunteer for the Gosselins back in the day, and to be uncomfortable with the show. She claimed she had some higher purpose for telling "the truth" about the Gosselins - which was the usual (they're greedy, they bicker, etc). The blog was a sensation and she became the Queen Bee.
In mid-September, Pennmommy claimed her son had appendicitis and was in a California hospital (he went to college at USC nearby). She had to fly to California. His condition worsened and she posted about that from the hospital. Her other son began sending updates to a select circle of Gosselin bloggers. Her son's condition deteriorated rapidly, and he died. Her blog was shut down. William, one of her surviving sons, sent a few final updates and started a memorial blog, then angrily shut it down when his authenticity was questioned.
The health crisis of her son occurred right after she been called on a contradiction (claiming to have never seen anything constituting abuse in one post; claiming to have called CPS in another - uproar resulted). The event gained her sympathy and tarred her detractors - people who expressed suspicion were criticized for being heartless. A few odd posts popped up on Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity - archenemies of GWoP - from someone claiming to have called the hospital. Funny thing, though - the name of the hospital was never actually posted anywhere. But calling the hospital was repeated and repeated as a sign of how Penn Mommy's family was harassed. "William" castigated posters for it, claiming that suspicious calls had been reported to his family by the hospital.
GDNNOP claimed they had captured the IP of someone posting as JHawksgirl1, and that that person had also posted as PennMommy and several other IDs on their blog. Their mods had been suspicious for some time. JHawksgirl1 turned out to be the AOL ID of a longtime TWOP poster and prolific blogger from Bakersfield, CA. For reasons of her own (my idea? total attention whore), this person seems to have made up several identities with "inside information" about the Gosselins. She began posting as these insiders on GWoP before eventually creating a whole blog for one of them. The health crisis/death allowed her to exit once her BS had been called and get maximum attention for the whole thing.
PennMommy's blog disappeared the same day that GWoP closed for "technical difficulties." GWoP mods later went back and removed every post linking to PennMommy. So did Julie, who had initially claimed that PennMommy was authentic because her experiences mirrored Julie's.
The woman who made up PennMommy had a very recognizable online "voice" and was a very prolific net citizen. She posted about a set of predictable topics. She was very easy for GDNNoPers and others to trace around the internet. Someone claiming to be PennMommy at first claimed everything was true and that she was a flight attendant (explaining her use of CA IPs throughout the summer, long before she was supposed to be in CA). Then, the Bakersfield blogger claimed that one of her online screennames and her passwords and her IP had been hijacked by her "distant cousin", but her cousin really did know the Gosselins and her son really did get sick and die from appendicitis at the same time that she had blogged about her own daughter's appendicitis bout.
She had a whole community of atheist bloggers (she is herself a very argumentative atheist - a recent choice for her) rallying to her defense, and a whole community of Gosselin bloggers attacking. It was a mess. There were a lot of contradictory explanations, a lot of this woman claiming she couldn't explain things because her family was grieving and that came first, but then passing on things to her friends to post, a lot of mysterious posts supporting her with information that could not come from anyone but her (basically, she was posting as many different people and supporting herself). Bohemian Moon tried to get in the middle of things - first by being Pennmommy's staunches supporter and shaming nonbelievers, then (when that story became untenable) by turning on the woman behind Pennmommy and posting details from court records about that woman's ongoing divorce.
Ultimately: Pennmommy was a fraud made up by this woman, who has a long history of online drama, drama, drama and unbelievable stories. She continues to make claims that contradict reality (the more you look, the more lies you find with this one). Her friends still accept her, because from what I can see they have huge chips on their shoulders relating to atheism and persecution.
GWoP and Julie were at best complicit in a coverup when they deleted all references to a poster they had vouched for, and at worst actively aided a fraud who said what they wanted to hear. Most of what Pennmommy said about the family was culled from Jon and Kate's local paper, and it has all become part of the GWOP canon of Why Kate Sucks.
ETA: that was way too long. Sorry. Better summation: Pennmommy was a made-up insider dishing moral outrage about the Gosselins and GWOP supported the whole thing, then swiffered it all away when she was exposed.
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Post by thingee on Oct 6, 2009 0:09:17 GMT -4
I appreciate both the long and the short versions, lol. From the various sites I was able to piece together bits of the story and names of those involved, so I totally appreciate you piecing it all together. Thanks Cantienne!
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Post by huntergrayson on Oct 6, 2009 3:34:25 GMT -4
Guys, what sort of dip should I bring to the conspiracy theorist party? I suspected the EffNEff = Food Network Fan thing, but wanted someone else to toss their tinfoil hat into the ring first. One would think that going through the whole PennMommy saga would impart GWOP some sense of critical reasoning skills - or at least more wariness in trusting "inside gossip" about Kate - but all someone has to do is mention ANY negative story about Kate and it is believed. Jon, meanwhile, could be pissing gasoline directly on them, followed by tossing his still-burning joint and they would be making excuses and justifying his behavior until the flames reached their faces. ETA: So, Gossip Girl, the fictional show about a blog that treats privileged teenagers as though they were TMZ-style celebrities, decided to launch an actual website covering celebs - I love their take on this Milkshake Debacle.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 8:05:46 GMT -4
GWOP's new hero. She calls Collin a bully prone to violent behavior. So much for Joel becoming a serial killer. Maybe he and Collin will work as a team robbing liquor stores instead. Lest we forget "hostile and angry Mady." She'd be the ring leader and tell Collin and Joel to stop being stupid boys and step up their game and start robbing banks. Mady can leave a water bottle at each scene as her calling card. It is the expert opinion of Dr. Lillian Glass that these kids need to get therapy before it's too late. Apparently the first step in child therapy is labeling them as "bullies" for negative behavior that isn't their fault.
Scroll down and there is the one about Kate lying. That I can buy, though I'm not willing to watch the interview again to verify any of it.
Then we have the next analysis of Jon's appearance on LKL "Jon Gosselin’s Body Language Showed Sincerity, Remorse and That He Is Finally Growing Up and Taking Responsibility" ;D I don't know if this "doctor" ever had credibility, but she lost it with that one.
Here's her twist on Jon befriending Michael Lohan: Perhaps Jon’s association with Michael Lohan, Lindsey’s father is a good thing as he learns what NOT to do from Michael’s mistakes.
Maybe I should encourage my teens to hang out with the wrong crowd so they can learn what NOT to do. The "doctor" seems to think this is a good idea.
The two children who need therapy the most in my opinion is twin Maddy who was always angry and crying and unhappy due to her lack of attention and obvious tense relationship with Kate. The other one is Colin who hits all the other kids and is a little bully. Kate being a bully herself obviously identifies with him. But this boy needs to be carefully monitored. Twin Cara needs to be monitored as well. Even though she comes across as stable and responsible, she is still a child. A quiet child who keeps everything inside my really be watched closely. Adan, the one with the glasses whom I find the most adorable seems to have been affected by his parent’s breakup as he seems more detached at to himself as though he is in a word of his own. Even little Leah seems miserable and sad.
Obviously Dr. Glass didn't get the memo on Hannah. In fact, Hannah isn't even mentioned as being mentally disturbed. GWOPers might want to get her straightened out on that "fact."
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Post by margojata on Oct 6, 2009 10:18:45 GMT -4
The most incriminating thing PennMommy had to say was that Kate freaked when PennMommy ate a yogurt from the refrigerator (and they only had one refrigerator at the time)! There was apparently HELL to pay for stealing Kate's yogurt!
She then lapsed into some insinuations about CPS, and stole Julie the Busybody's mantra of "Ohh, what you DON'T know!!!!". Julie liked to imply that things were SO bad in the Gosselin household - they'd all have to move to Europe when the truth came out (maybe they can move in with Roman Polanski).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 11:05:37 GMT -4
I dunno why they don't rename the blog "Kate Gosselin Without Pity". Nancy Grace served Jon his ass and I can't find one comment there about it. "She's a cheap low class white trash slut" for not knowing the proper name for a stone(that's IF that's even what she said)? Oh god forbid. Judgmental much, gwoppers?
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Post by twopfan on Oct 6, 2009 11:43:36 GMT -4
Seriously, she could buy the ring she describes for less than a grand. My wedding band is a wrap around piece that has two small diamonds and two small sapphires and was $250. My engagement ring that it wraps around was $300. You could get 8 small diamonds and a MOP setting for a grand, I'm sure. (She probably won't, but it is possible, so these people should chill. Diamonds? Not THAT expensive, depending on how good they are (and who really can tell?))
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2009 12:01:27 GMT -4
Looks like Joel might have a future in serial killing after all.
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