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Post by chonies on Jun 14, 2011 10:30:37 GMT -4
I've only seen some older Comedy Central specials (and I loved Brian Fellows and Astronaut Jones), but does his stand up usually involve a character or other persona, kind of like, kill me, Larry the Cable Guy? I get the idea that to some extent most comedians are not actually themselves onstage, but...I don't know.
I also thought the apology seemed very real and sincere, but it kind of raises more questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2011 10:48:16 GMT -4
I agree that the statement came off as sincere. But catfrog makes a great point (and one that I struggled to articulate myself): Gay children are KILLING THEMSELVES because of messages like this. I know he's a comedian, but he's also an adult. He should be responsible enough to think about the impact of his words.
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Jun 14, 2011 10:49:22 GMT -4
Yeah, the biggest question being if you feel this strongly in the opposite way of all that you said... then why say all those things? The way he phrased how he was the most sad about certain things that came out of his mouth makes it seem like he had no control of what he was saying. So... drinking again? Whoever guessed that - it could be the case. That or he has some kind of longform Tourette's going on that makes a whole comedy routine spill out of his mouth beyond his control.
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Post by magazinewhore on Jun 14, 2011 11:51:55 GMT -4
Regarding not being healthy: he also has diabetes and didn't eat a healthy diet. That's why he had to have the kidney transplant in the first place, I think. Although Tina Fey indicated that he is now taking better care of himself.
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Post by Freelance Exorcist on Jun 14, 2011 14:04:55 GMT -4
This is what makes me doubt his sincerity. He's sorry he got caught. Period. If that Facebook user wasn't in the right place at the right time to record his words for posterity, he would probably keep on saying them and wouldn't be sorry.
Too little, too late, Tracy. We already know what kind of person you are. And you're still not funny.
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Post by puretrash on Jun 14, 2011 14:34:21 GMT -4
Comedy routines are usually not off-the-cuff, are they? They are planned, thought out, written out. Which is why his apology rings hollow to me. If you really think what you said was so wrong, why say it in the first place? Why would that vile shit even cross your mind? I just don't get it.
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Post by twodollars on Jun 14, 2011 15:55:47 GMT -4
Tracy should've realized that the times are different and what jokes he could've gotten away with 20 years ago cannot be said on stage today. Hell, Andrew Dice Clay was lambasted for telling homophobic jokes in 1990. TBTH, I only thought Tracy Morgan was funny when he said that line during the 2008 primaries: "Bitch may be the new black, but black's the new president, bitch." Otherwise, he's as relevant a comedian today as Simbad. Man, I loved that comeback to Tina Fey. And Sinbad may not be relevant as a comedian, but he was relevant in the 2008 primaries. Remember when Hillary tried to convince people that Bill Clinton sent her, Sinbad and Sheryl Crow into a Bosnia under gunfire? I will love Sinbad forever for his response to that nonsense:
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Post by celerydunk on Jun 14, 2011 15:58:23 GMT -4
Agreed. That was the point I was trying to make earlier. I have a feeling that if we heard the rest of his stand-up that night, homophobia wouldn't be the only offensive thing he joked about.
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Post by deeconsistent on Jun 14, 2011 16:08:41 GMT -4
Comedy routines are usually not off-the-cuff, are they? They are planned, thought out, written out. Which is why his apology rings hollow to me. If you really think what you said was so wrong, why say it in the first place? Why would that vile shit even cross your mind? I just don't get it. I thought what Tracy said was appalling, but I don't think it's that strange for a comedian to step in it. Working in front of a live audience, trading in shock and vulgarity, the chance of crossing the line is always right there. A lot of times, whether a certain joke goes over comes down to gauging your audience. I said this upthread, but I'll repeat it: in my experience, that type of hateful speech isn't even that unusual in live comedy clubs. I think that much like the Michael Richards incident, it probably felt like something that was completely acceptable because similar stuff is said all the time. I think that's one of the reasons Chris Rock defended him.
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Post by FiggyPudding on Jun 14, 2011 21:44:34 GMT -4
Okay, that was a better apology.
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