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Post by Witchie on Feb 4, 2016 1:18:14 GMT -4
Yep, this. Find a way to call out Kanye without shaming and bringing other women down. Don't hang his shit on Kim. Amber was a stripper. Kim has a sex tape. So what? When we throw that in his face it's like we're agreeing that those things are on a spectrum that is inherently bad and shameful for women. We're agreeing to his hierarchy. And why does Kanye get to be the gate keeper of what is and is not okay behavior for women? Why is it okay for him to enjoy strippers, while women are bad for being one? Call out Kanye for acting like he's the one who gets to determine when and for whom all of this matters. When Amber called out Tyga for his pedophilia, Khloe defended Kylie by saying Amber was a stripper at 15 and couldn't judge her baby sis who was a reality star (or some such nonsense). So within their own family, they see nothing wrong with shaming Amber for her past, while glossing over Kim's sex tape. And I don't think it's even the sex tape itself that's the problem, it's that the Kardashians like to pretend that they didn't sell that tape and use that hype to elevate themselves to reality show royalty. Own your shit, K Clan, and stop pretending your shit don't stink! Maybe then, people wouldn't throw Kim's tape in their faces every.single.time they try to get superior with their detractors.
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Post by deeconsistent on Feb 4, 2016 5:19:33 GMT -4
When Amber called out Tyga for his pedophilia, Khloe defended Kylie by saying Amber was a stripper at 15 and couldn't judge her baby sis who was a reality star (or some such nonsense). So within their own family, they see nothing wrong with shaming Amber for her past, while glossing over Kim's sex tape. And I don't think it's even the sex tape itself that's the problem, it's that the Kardashians like to pretend that they didn't sell that tape and use that hype to elevate themselves to reality show royalty. Own your shit, K Clan, and stop pretending your shit don't stink! Maybe then, people wouldn't throw Kim's tape in their faces every.single.time they try to get superior with their detractors. Even Amber admitted her comments on Kylie were in poor taste and she said she understood why Khloe responded the way she did. I think it's sort of a stretch to say Khloe was trying to shame Amber. Amber told the world know how Kylie should be behaving while on a promotional tour for a book in which she literally said that being a teenaged stripper was the best time of her life. Kanye is awful, but I think this is just ANOTHER one of those situations where all the rules get twisted or thrown out the window because some Kardashians are involved. Like others have already said, Kim didn't say a word. I would bet even money that she was the one who reached out to Amber for the instagram meeting and the phrase "you know how he is" was exchanged no less than a dozen times. Neither Amber nor Kim are perfect victims, but they shouldn't have to be. Neither one of them should get verbally "fridged" because Kanye is an asshole. If slut-shaming is sexist and wrong, then it's sexist and wrong. etaHonestly, I get the irony of a guy blasting his ex for being a stripper while being married to a woman who came to incredible fame due in no small part to her appearing in a sex tape. I feel like most of the criticism has gone beyond pointing out Kanye's stupidity and just straight up trashing the women involved.
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Post by discoprincess on Feb 4, 2016 10:44:42 GMT -4
etaHonestly, I get the irony of a guy blasting his ex for being a stripper while being married to a woman who came to incredible fame due in no small part to her appearing in a sex tape. Exactly. It's the concept of "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". I don't really care about Kim having made it big on her sex tape, but Kayne played himself when he attacked Amber like that because he left himself wide-open for cracks on him and Kim. He should have known better.
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Post by chiqui on Feb 4, 2016 16:39:06 GMT -4
Didn't Amber also have a lot of nude pictures "leaked?" (I put it in quotes because it wasn't clear to me if it was a ploy or not.) It might have been related to her work as a stripper, but there was one that was a gynecological open-leg shot... showing both orifices, without hair... that was more pornographic or maybe hard-core boudoir.
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Post by carrier76 on Feb 4, 2016 16:54:39 GMT -4
Didn't Amber also have a lot of nude pictures "leaked?" (I put it in quotes because it wasn't clear to me if it was a ploy or not.) It might have been related to her work as a stripper, but there was one that was a gynecological open-leg shot... showing both orifices, without hair... that was more pornographic or maybe hard-core boudoir. I definitely remember one of her....pleasuring herself. It was burned into my brain and I really wish it wasn't.
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Feb 5, 2016 8:48:17 GMT -4
... that was more pornographic or maybe hard-core boudoir. I am devoting today to waiting for a chance to use "hard-core boudoir" in conversation.
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Post by prisma on Feb 5, 2016 12:22:04 GMT -4
... that was more pornographic or maybe hard-core boudoir. I am devoting today to waiting for a chance to use "hard-core boudoir" in conversation. Dammit! Missed opportunity: yesterday a friend asked me for a reference for a photographer who could take test shots of her son, who's interested in modeling. I told her I'd just seen an ad on FB for a local photographer who did boudoir photography but it would have been MUCH funnier if I could have thrown in "hard-core boudoir." Another day...another day.
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komodozer
Footman
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Feb 5, 2016 0:34:50 GMT -4
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Post by komodozer on Feb 8, 2016 4:19:36 GMT -4
the whole twitter controversy was damn interesting! no matter how badly they are known for their public behaviour and controversies...recently I checked out celebrities net worth...and Kanye West's net worth is $145 million!
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Post by discoprincess on Feb 8, 2016 15:12:35 GMT -4
the whole twitter controversy was damn interesting! no matter how badly they are known for their public behaviour and controversies...recently I checked out celebrities net worth...and Kanye West's net worth is $145 million! " She ain't messing with no broke -------" [/Kanye shrug]
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laboria
Lady in Waiting
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Aug 20, 2007 12:45:58 GMT -4
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Post by laboria on Feb 9, 2016 15:15:00 GMT -4
Changes album title againDoing music with Three Stacks, Kendrick, and gospel tinged? I may have to give it a listen, but I haven't messed with him since around MBDTF.
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