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Post by kostgard on Jun 21, 2013 23:22:06 GMT -4
I agree, in that Hannibal is bummed that he lost them, but only bummed for himself. He's like a kid who is upset that he broke his new favorite toys and can't play with them anymore. They were fun little possessions to him, not real people with needs and emotions. He really loved the idea of having a daughter he could train/mold into whatever he wanted, and he was really looking forward to tearing down Will and then building him up in his own image. But things didn't quite work out the way he wanted, so he had to pull the plug and he was mourning all the great plans he lost, not the people. Not really.
I love this show because every time I go back and watch it, I pick up more stuff. Like in the episode where Will really starts to break down (the one where he contaminated the crime scene because he went into a fugue state while checking it out) Jack pointed out that he looks at evidence and collects data, while what Will does is more intuition and interpretation. Those are all right-brain functions (the left hemisphere handles the stuff Jack does - logic, reasoning, facts, data). And which side of Will's brain was all aflame? The right. So that's why his "powers" were starting to get wonky and he had trouble pulling himself out of his visions and maybe why he had a hard time seeing Hannibal for what he really is - the side of his brain that he uses for stuff like that was the side that was sick. Well done, writers.
Also? The sound and soundtrack on this show really are amazing. Watching with headphones is highly recommended. You pick up so much more.
Never would have thought to put the two shows together, but Louise as Hannibal and Tina as Will is kinda perfect.
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Post by Yossarian on Jun 22, 2013 3:01:24 GMT -4
Were we to presume that veal was Abigail? Because that is cold. I thought Hannibal only ate the rude? I think the veal was definitely Abigail. He made some comment about it being a "young beast" which, to me, seemed like a reference to Abigail. And to him, he had treated that flesh with "respect" by cooking it in that elaborate way so it wasn't a horrible thing that he had done to Abigail ... . Plus, really, he's an equal opportunity cannibal: he doesn't actually confine his eating to only the rude!
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Post by Neurochick on Jun 25, 2013 9:14:19 GMT -4
I think Hannibal's tears were real; he'd lost his two favorite toys, Will and Abigail. I think he wanted to groom Abigail as a potential mate because I see Hannibal as a lion, the king of the jungle, who eventually has to mate, so who best but a mate he creates? I think Hannibal will somehow get Will freed, but no one will know he did it. Hannibal will get bored and will be curious to know how everybody will react if it came out that Will was framed, but of course, Hannibal would NEVER implicate himself, but he'd know what to do. And then there's this.
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Post by kostgard on Jun 25, 2013 9:29:36 GMT -4
I've been working on the theory that Hannibal will be the one who ends up providing the key to Will's freedom, but I kinda think it will be known - Will knows now, and what better way to screw with his head than to set him free instead of letting him rot in jail for your crimes? It will also make others far less likely to believe Will about Hannibal. If he tries to tell his theory to anyone ( and right now it is a theory since he has no physical evidence), people will just ask "Why would he frame you only to then provide the key to set you free?"
As for that link, it makes sense that Hannibal is a champ in the sack - sex is the perfect way to manipulate/control someone. As for who will have sexy-fun times with the good doctor? I'm leaning towards Alana. She's the only one willing to believe in Will, so Hannibal needs her as close as possible. Plus Will likes her and it's another way to screw with him.
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Post by bklynred on Jun 26, 2013 20:00:38 GMT -4
I think Hannibal kills the rude...and anyone who is an inconvenience. Abigail on a platter, yum!
I'm glad they won't bring in Clarice Starling. That was such a stellar, memorable movie: there's no need to reinvigorate/reinterpret that relationship, IMO. (The prison cage scene followed by the ambulance scene still makes me scream inwardly every time I see it.) I remember seeing it in the theater and thinking, Oh no. This isn't happening, oh no, oh no, this IS happening... Perfection.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 17:24:42 GMT -4
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Post by kostgard on Jun 28, 2013 17:34:46 GMT -4
I know! Ever since I heard about this, I've been crossing my fingers that Bowie will say yes. But hey, if Bowie says no, they can get the official Bowie stand in, Tilda Swinton, right?
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Post by Neurochick on Jul 12, 2013 8:56:26 GMT -4
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Post by Mutagen on Oct 20, 2013 8:05:16 GMT -4
Welp I'm super-late to the party, but I'm so glad I ordered this series. Especially having grown up in Maryland/northern Virginia, I really enjoy the namechecking of a lot of random places I remember, like Wolf Trap and Dumfries. It's like the X-Files, in that I almost prefer the "atmospheric Canadian landscape" version of the area to the real thing. As a lot of people have already mentioned, the acting/casting is really on point. Mikkelsen is flawless, of course, and I was totally blown away at how well Dancy handled Will's breakdown. I really liked that in the early episodes, Will Graham was the slightly harder-to-like character than Hannibal Lecter, and the masterful reversal of that as the season went on. And I think it's a huge testament to the writing and acting that even though we the audience know Hannibal is screwing with people, characters like Graham/Crawford/Bloom don't look like idiots for not catching on. For all the gore in this series, the moment that most freaked me out was the first time Will drew the clock. Speaking of disturbing, is it wrong that I find Mads Mikkelsen ever so attractive as Hannibal? I thought he was weirdly hot in Casino Royale, so... no judgment. It feels like a step up to be checking him out as Hannibal Lecter.
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Post by kostgard on Oct 20, 2013 11:53:43 GMT -4
The most amazing thing to me is that apparently very, very late in the process of creating the show, they realized they were headed in the wrong direction, scrapped everything, and started over. Like, days before they shot the pilot. I am amazed that they scrambled to start over so late and yet the seams don't show. I've seen countless shows where even on a longer timeline they decided to just change some elements and it totally showed. Not here.
Yeah, that really was the most anxiety-inducing moment - the moment you know something is really wrong with Will. Then you get to go through the stress of watching Will unravel for the rest of the season.
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