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Post by prisma on Apr 22, 2014 13:46:10 GMT -4
I really wonder how this is going to play out. I know that Hollywood protects its own, but if those parties are that legendary and that well known, it seems like they would be able to find people willing to talk. I wonder how many pictures there are floating around?
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Post by canuckcutie on Apr 22, 2014 14:47:25 GMT -4
Well there seems to be lots of stories out there and I've seen a few innocuous pics allegedly taken at the parties. I think it all hinges on whether the media choses to ignore it or dig deeper and whether other victims come forward.
I do think that it's never a good thing when you have parents acting as their kids manager. When you are dependent on your kid financially you are not going to be making the best decisions for them. I think the child stars who fare the best are the ones whose parents have legitimate employment outside the industry and don't rely on them for support.
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Post by Wol on Apr 23, 2014 13:32:29 GMT -4
I do think that it's never a good thing when you have parents acting as their kids manager. Correct and I can only think of one exception - the parents of actor Charlie Korsmo. He was the little boy in Dick Tracy and in Hook. His mom was his manager but she was militant about his protection and about his education. He left acting in his late teens, did his undergrad at MIT and got a law degree from Harvard, IIRC. So, yeah. Topic? Professional orgies? Overzealous stage parents? Dear God, the flashbacks... The only reason this current scandal might have traction is because it involves "the gays." If it were straight alleged perpetrators I doubt this would see the light of day in the media (who, outside the industry, even knows who Garth Ancier is?). I remember a party where former head of New Line Cinema Mike Deluca got a blow job on the balcony of the house and people stood around in the backyard watching and applauding. And that was tame. Ugh, I may have to go shower now.
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Post by BoroKat on Apr 23, 2014 14:00:20 GMT -4
I do think that it's never a good thing when you have parents acting as their kids manager. Correct and I can only think of one exception - the parents of actor Charlie Korsmo. He was the little boy in Dick Tracy and in Hook. His mom was his manager but she was militant about his protection and about his education. He left acting in his late teens, did his undergrad at MIT and got a law degree from Harvard, IIRC. So, yeah. Topic? Professional orgies? Overzealous stage parents? Dear God, the flashbacks... The only reason this current scandal might have traction is because it involves "the gays." If it were straight alleged perpetrators I doubt this would see the light of day in the media (who, outside the industry, even knows who Garth Ancier is?). I remember a party where former head of New Line Cinema Mike Deluca got a blow job on the balcony of the house and people stood around in the backyard watching and applauding. And that was tame. Ugh, I may have to go shower now. Don't you miss it, Wol?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 14:05:09 GMT -4
I would imagine there's a moral ambiguity that sets in with a lot of these people. At some point, they don't even know what they're doing is wrong and nobody around them does either (not that that excuses it). It's like any other culture that's normal to the people in it and weird to the people outside looking in.
Entertainment Tonight hasn't said a word about it on their show, and GMA hasn't reported on it either. I don't recall seeing a story about this anywhere on TV. It looks like this is going to be another internet-centric news story that doesn't really breakthrough to the mainstream. Part of it may be that it's a very unpleasant topic and another reason, of course, would be the incestuous nature of entertainment business. Everybody is owned by somebody who could get caught up in an investigative net.
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Post by Hamatron on Apr 23, 2014 19:05:38 GMT -4
TMZ has been covering it. I haven't watched their TV show lately, but I bet they will cover it there, too. But otherwise, I can't imagine some of the fluffier celebrity news shows covering it.
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Post by Beyle on Apr 23, 2014 19:46:07 GMT -4
I do think that it's never a good thing when you have parents acting as their kids manager. Correct and I can only think of one exception - the parents of actor Charlie Korsmo. He was the little boy in Dick Tracy and in Hook. His mom was his manager but she was militant about his protection and about his education. He left acting in his late teens, did his undergrad at MIT and got a law degree from Harvard, IIRC. So, yeah. Topic? Professional orgies? Overzealous stage parents? Dear God, the flashbacks... The only reason this current scandal might have traction is because it involves "the gays." If it were straight alleged perpetrators I doubt this would see the light of day in the media (who, outside the industry, even knows who Garth Ancier is?). I remember a party where former head of New Line Cinema Mike Deluca got a blow job on the balcony of the house and people stood around in the backyard watching and applauding. And that was tame. Ugh, I may have to go shower now. I remember that blowjob story making the rounds, but it never blew up (no pun intended) into a major story. You're right. That story is tame compared to this one. I also agree that because this story involves gay men, it might get more attention unlike the stories involving exploited women in Hollywood.
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Post by BinkyBetsy on Apr 24, 2014 5:12:19 GMT -4
Plenty of parents would turn a blind eye in the hope that their kid will land a lucrative role and hell if it all goes wrong I bet there are those who would run to a lawyer and take a quiet payoff. Circa 2001, there was some tsk-ing about Haley Osment and his allegedly overprotective father: "Poor kid, his dad never lets him do anything!" And the same thing a few years later, when Emily was on Hannah Montana: "Her dad's such a big meanie, taking her phone away -- Miley has so much more freedom!" Now, between this and what Corey Feldman's been saying*, I can't believe anyone ever thought "overprotectiveness" was a bad thing. Meanwhile, I'm hoping that Sir Ian only made an appearance at one party and left before it got really raunchy, and also hoping that Victor Garber didn't appear at all. But I have a friend who believes that CMJ never touched a kid inappropriately... *I mean, I know Feldman is hardly an unimpeachable source, but I figured there had to be some truth to it. Otherwise, he would have been shut down or sued by now.
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Post by tszuj on Apr 24, 2014 10:22:48 GMT -4
Stuff like this makes me happy I work only in Britain and never pursued or managed to pursue anything in LA. I've heard a lot of sleazy stories from when I worked at the Old Vic (though nothing involving assault or underage boys - though very young guys) but I guess Kevin Spacey brought 'Hollywood' attitudes with him, because all that (casting couch, etc.) I think isn't part of the entertainment/arts culture over here at all.
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Post by cabbagekid on Apr 24, 2014 11:26:20 GMT -4
Entertainment Tonight hasn't said a word about it on their show, and GMA hasn't reported on it either. I don't recall seeing a story about this anywhere on TV. It looks like this is going to be another internet-centric news story that doesn't really breakthrough to the mainstream. Part of it may be that it's a very unpleasant topic and another reason, of course, would be the incestuous nature of entertainment business. Everybody is owned by somebody who could get caught up in an investigative net. And this is why I'm upset by this whole thing. To me, at least, there's no difference between what Singer has done and what Sandusky did, therefore, the amount of coverage given to Sandusky should be what's given to Singer. Eventually though, I do think there will be one journalist willing to take this on with the support of their editor, and hopefully all of the "casting couch" story, not just the gay side of it.
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