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Post by deeconsistent on May 17, 2015 23:31:22 GMT -4
I find her personality off-putting, I don't think she can rap and I don't like any of her music. She admitted to getting small implants a while ago, but I'm surprised she would get such a drastic facial procedure done so close to a major television appearance.
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Post by Hamatron on May 17, 2015 23:40:16 GMT -4
She's not a good person. Long before she hit it big, ONTD used to post stuff she was saying on twitter that was racist and homophobic. People seem to think that her career is also more or less over. I tend to agree. She had two hits, and when people called her out for appropriating southern black culture and dialect she dug herself into a bigger hole. Now she is flopping and people are pointing out her racism again. She had to cancel her arena tour -- which she never should have been on anyway, she doesn't have a song catalog to support a solo stadium tour -- because no one was buying tickets. She's scheduled to headline Pittsburgh's Pride Fest, and the announcement was met with epic anger on the event's announcement on Facebook. She's dunzo, more or less. Here are some fancy quotes from an interview:
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Post by petitesuite on May 18, 2015 0:03:35 GMT -4
Wow, she looks REALLY different. I am surprised (but not sad) at how quickly her career derailed. I think it's so much harder to become a one hit wonder now because there are so many ways to keep shoving yourself in people's faces, and yet she seems to have pulled it off.
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Post by Hamatron on May 18, 2015 0:20:10 GMT -4
Well, to be fair, she did have three hits songs ("Fancy," "Black Widow," "Problem"), and one of them was the song of the summer. But then she had "Booty" and "Pretty Girls." And she's had other missteps... and a lot of plastic surgery/fillers. She has that Kylie Jenner look that's we're seeing from some young celebs.
She also benefited from a program helmed by Clear Channel where they super-expose someone they want to go big, and a lot of her career has been collaborating with mega stars like Britney Spears and Katy Perry. So she definitely had the backing.
It sucks, because I love hip hop, and would love to support her as a female in a tough genre, but man, she seems angry and tone def regarding legit criticisms people have against her. Her style IS very derivative, so it's not surprising that her career doesn't have legs.
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Post by Coffeecakes on May 18, 2015 0:26:45 GMT -4
I want to believe the beginning of her downfall was Nicki Minaj's open diss to her at the BET awards. Ever since then, it seems everybody started going in on her talentless, fake ass.
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Post by discoprincess on May 18, 2015 1:28:11 GMT -4
Ever since then, it seems everybody started going in on her talentless, fake ass. By the way, there is speculation that her ass is literally fake (like Kim K's). She was fine the way she was before the boob job and everything else. She also did some modeling, yes? Maybe she should focus more on that than on the rap game. She needs to not evoke Eminem. At this point the regard that people have for her is similar to the regard that they had for Vanilla Ice than the regard that they have for Eminem.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 10:23:11 GMT -4
The criticism against her has more to do with her pretending to be something she's not than being white. She's rapping with a fake black southern accent and shaking a booty that was bought and paid for. Did T.I. put her up to all this? If so, why? I can believe she loves hip hop and wanted to be successful in the genre, but something screwy happened when she started to pursue a career. I'd love to know how all this came about. I wonder if there was a discussion on whether she should speak in her regular voice in interviews or carry on the charade 24/7. I suspect the only reason the latter didn't happen is because we live in a time where it would be impossible to get away with it.
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Post by Hamatron on May 18, 2015 11:02:22 GMT -4
Also, I'm not particularly into Eminem, but her comparisons to him don't really work. He performed rap, but he did it sounding like a white dude from Detroit... which he is. His lyrics are about being a white dude living in Detroit... which he is. He also has quite a few songs addressing his white privilege and how he benefited from it and how it's tied to his fame. He rightfully got called out for plenty of other stuff, though (and he got called out for being another Vanilla Ice, too).
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Post by chingaza on May 18, 2015 11:38:34 GMT -4
Her rap voice is awful and grating. Nothing melodic or pleasant about it. Plus her songs are stupid. Fancy was catchy but that had more to do with the hook and retro 80's beat (I'm weirdly reminded of Material Girl when I hear it.)
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Post by discoprincess on May 18, 2015 15:25:55 GMT -4
Snoop Dogg's comments on Iggy recently in the New York Times: Never mind that not too long ago he and Iggy had a Twitter beef.
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