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Post by whatever on Jul 28, 2006 13:55:02 GMT -4
Love Barbra's early movies - Funny Girl and Hello, Dolly are faves to this day.
I feel about her the way I feel about most old people - they are set in their ways, and they won't change how they act or what they think.
I feel like - everyone knows what she's like, and what to expect when you're interviewing her, so why are you acting surprised when she behaves that way? Expecting Barbra to behave normally is like locking a murderer in a room with a bunch of weapons and another person and acting surprised when they kill the other person.
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Post by heyalice on Jul 28, 2006 21:06:53 GMT -4
Mine too! Has anyone ever seen her live? Are concert tix going for something like $1200? I read a wile back that she has donated a million dollars a year to Israel for the past 30 years.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Jul 28, 2006 21:46:58 GMT -4
I used to grudgingly admire that she never got a nose job, then someone mentioned that the reason she never did was because she was afraid a nose job would effect her precious voice. Well, her voice is her bread and butter. If I sang like her, I wouldn't change a thing about my body. I would be the divaest diva that ever divaed, too. Also, I heard years ago that somehow in her head she hears the perfect pitch or something all the time. I don't really know what that means, but maybe it explains her (to me) sublime voice.
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Post by LurkerNan on Jul 28, 2006 22:39:36 GMT -4
She's old and crabby. So are most old people, I think... my view might be skewed seeing as how I just spent 2 weeks visiting my mother-in-law.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2006 0:27:31 GMT -4
Perfect pitch is not unusual, especially in musicians.
She was young and crabby, so her age cannot be blamed for her crabbiness. I also never thought talent was an excuse for treating people like crap. If anything, it should make you more grateful for your gift. Just because she can sing it doesn't mean she's better than anyone else.
Her tickets aren't selling, mainly because the only people who will pay that much are hardcore fans and they all shelled out for what was supposed to be her farewell concert years ago. I think she still thinks she's in the 1970's and as huge as she was. Now would be a perfect time for her to go back on Broadway, maybe do a play to remind everyone she was originally a stage actress. But then she'd actually have to give up some control to a director and she can't do anything anymore without having complete control over everything. She can't appear on a stage, do a movie or record an album without being in total control and not listening to anyone else - which is why her career has stagnated.
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Post by chiqui on Jul 29, 2006 17:38:37 GMT -4
Has anyone read her recent bio, the one where she was called a maneater?
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Post by pathtaken on Aug 25, 2006 10:44:52 GMT -4
I am currently reading Barbara, The Way She Is right now. I've only gotten as far as Funny Girl on Broadway though. Some bitchy, funny bits on how she would never let her understudy go on. Good stuff on her sleeping around, Elliot was a virgin when they met, she wasn't. [Kill me, I loves the trash.] After Broadway fame, she cut a lot of early friends that had helped her at her start.
The way she was brought up and the way her mother and step dad treated her [never admitted she had any talent] you can cut her some slack for her control freak evil ways, but she should have had enough therapy/fame by now to deal with it, and make nice.
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Post by Wol on Aug 25, 2006 11:08:04 GMT -4
Jon Peters is heavily responsible for making her the nightmare that she is. He put her on a pedestal and encouraged the diva behavior. He thought that's how a star should act. One of the funniest things I've ever seen is the bit in "A Star is Born" where she's doing a photo shoot, with the white girl afro and the crossed eyes and the gigantic schnoz and the photographer is all "Gorgeous, Esther! Beautiful, baby!" It's hilarious, but that was her relationship with Jon. He told her what she wanted to hear, not what the truth was.
Some reviewer made a good point about "The Mirror Has Two Faces" and why she was the worst person to do that role. They said she is too vain to make herself look as unattractive as the character should in the first half and too vain to realize she's not good looking enough to carry off the transformation in the second half. I thought that was spot on.
She's a hypocrite of the highest order. She goes on and on about the environment and liberal values, but she treats people she perceives as "underlings" like utter garbage. I know a florist in LA who will never work with her because of how she talks to people, and she was a major account that they just let go. And all her "green" commitment is bullshit. She stores her furs in a cold room in her NYC apartment 24/7, 365, and she only travels by private plane. But she justifies this with the donation of her Malibu spread as a "conservancy," which was more a tax write off than anything.
I used to defend her because her voice is amazing, and then I heard Linda Eder, who sounds exactly like her, and now I don't think Babs is quite so special anymore. And she's not nearly as good an actress as everyone says she is. Frankly, I think she's a better director than she is an actress. I liked the scenes in "Prince of Tides" that she wasn't in. Wonderful feel for time and place.
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Post by ownlife on Aug 25, 2006 12:08:41 GMT -4
Ooh, "Barbra, The Way She Is" sounds like a perfect beach or pool read.
So Linda Eder always sounds like Babs? I heard one of her songs on a Ladies of Broadway CD and thought it was a one-time impersonation.
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Post by Wol on Aug 25, 2006 13:30:06 GMT -4
Linda Eder always sounds like Babs. It's freaky. "Rain on my Parade" is eerie. Pull up some of the crap Linda did with ex-hubby Frank Wildhorn (like Jekyll and Hyde) and you're like "Why is Barbra Streisand singing this drivel?"
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