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Post by narm on Jun 5, 2016 16:12:29 GMT -4
But, I think that a lot of times, it takes someone so young a strong role model somewhere to get them to even think about bootstrapping themselves out of position. Yes, she had money as a resource, but that means nothing when family dynamics are really damaging. Of course there are people that do far more with a lot less. I see them every day at work. But comparing, in my experience, can be an exercise in futility.
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Post by chonies on Jun 5, 2016 16:34:49 GMT -4
I agree with narm. It's hard to know what her mindset was, and it seems like she had no guidance for anything--no plans for work or education, no real gift of her own, and so on. By her age, her parents were already pop stars. And it sounds like she was surrounded by people who liked her for her access, which must have sucked extra hard since she didn't have her own *thing* to offer the world. Maybe she thought she was a failure, or maybe she just enjoyed being a moneyed party girl. Maybe she could have pulled herself out at some point, but it would probably have meant severing ties with the only people she knew, possibly the majority of her family.
For me, it's not a question of feeling sorry for her, in those words, but as a celebrity kid, she seemed rather worse off than many.
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Post by eclair on Jun 5, 2016 17:01:05 GMT -4
Well, and she got married to someone she must have hoped would love her and take care of her, and bring her security and stability and she might have made the best choice she could but he wasn't that guy. That's a lot for someone without good coping skills to overcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 17:05:48 GMT -4
Early childhood trauma literally changes the brain. Add to that the genetic predisposition to addiction, then later (god only knows when), any damage caused by her own drug use, she didn't have a fair chance. It would have been a miracle if she turned out emotionally healthy and as functional as the average person.
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Post by celerydunk on Jun 5, 2016 18:25:40 GMT -4
She definitely had a hard life. Her parents absolutely failed her. I just think that she shouldn't be let off the hook when we hold regular citizens accountable for their behavior at her age.
I'm gonna drop this because I feel like I'm beating a dead horse now.
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Post by discoprincess on Jun 5, 2016 21:47:37 GMT -4
Nick Gordon didn't help.
Whitney supported the relationship, I believe. B-K was so young to be so serious about someone.
Yes, she had free choice but I still didn't expect her to go as young as she did. (On another note, Lindsay Lohan still survives and is living her chaotic life. Nothing against LILO, but I don't get it.)
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Post by narm on Jun 5, 2016 21:51:50 GMT -4
It's truly amazing the differences in tolerance! I wonder if it is a matter of the drug of choice, too- maybe prescription drugs are wearing people's body parts out faster, and are more lethal than some street drugs? I don't know...it's all crazy.
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Post by deeconsistent on Jun 5, 2016 22:17:27 GMT -4
It's truly amazing the differences in tolerance! I wonder if it is a matter of the drug of choice, too- The thing about whether or not Bobbi Kristina deserves to be let off the hook is that she didn't die of a drug overdose, the police claimed there were no drugs in her system when she was discovered in the tub, and there's a possibility that she was killed by an estranged ex-lover. She may have had substance abuse issues, but those issues weren't necessarily what led to her death. On top of that, she wasn't a notorious wild child or law breaker.
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Post by narm on Jun 5, 2016 23:16:45 GMT -4
Really? I wasn't aware. I truly thought all this time she was under the influence when she passed. Perhaps I just lost that in all the comparisons of her death to whitney's.
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Post by chonies on Jun 6, 2016 9:19:27 GMT -4
There are conflicting reports about the autopsy. People magazine has reported there were traces of drugs (cocaine and morphine) in her system, as well as anti-depressants and alcohol, but I didn't see anything about quantities. What stood out to me, and also ambiguous, was that the autopsy recorded 'multiple well-healed scars on her arms and torso.' Again, it's not clarified, but this strongly suggests 'cutter' to me. There also was the trauma, but I remember from the discussion at the time she was found, it might have been from a recent car accident.
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