NappingAthena
Sloane Ranger
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Post by NappingAthena on Dec 4, 2011 14:04:11 GMT -4
[/color] Interesting. Wonder if Michelle Stafford flat out ignores him on set. I don't watch the show, so I don't know if their characters interact at all. I bet they don't. [/quote] Didn't he say to a reporter once that a Sci coworker talked shit about him after he left the "church"? I know Sharon Case is also one, but I was sure it was Stafford. She seems like the type.
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Post by eclair on May 5, 2012 10:36:36 GMT -4
I was in the library and in the new book section the title "A Queer and Pleasant Danger" by Kate Bornstein caught my eye. The subtitle is "the true story of a nice Jewish boy who joins the church of scientology and leaves twelve years later to become the lovely lady she is today". I'm about halfway through, and so far this is an interesting book. The author thought there was something wrong with him that he wanted to be a woman, and in 1970 when he meets some scienos and they tell him that his body isn't his true self, his true self is a genderless thetan he joins them. He ends up in Sea Org, marries a woman, has a child and loses touch with the child when he leaves the organization. I recommend this book, it tells very clearly what it was like inside the cult, but also the rest of the story is interesting and well told.
I just reached the part where he leaves, and actually he was kicked out. He was a sales guy going around the world making a lot of money for the clams. While in Switzerland he gets taken aside by a bank manager who thinks he is LRon. He calls back to the org like he supposed to and reports this. He goes home, and gets audited for hours about this event. They keep asking him if he has embezzled, if he thinks unkind thoughts about LRon. He realises from this experience that LRon isn't taking just a small salary as claimed but huge amounts of money. Unable to find anything he's hinding, his auditors tell him his choices are to be excommunicated or to lose all his rank and privileges and live on food scraps. He opts to be excommunicated. He says goodbye to his wife, but doesn't get to say good bye to his daughter.
Edited because the difference between leaving and getting kicked out because he accidentally discovered LRon's shady financial dealings matters.
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Oct 3, 2024 2:28:25 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 9:57:57 GMT -4
It looks like Lisa Marie Presley may have left Scientology.If so, good for her. She's been in it forever, since she was a kid, so making the break would be difficult. Then again, I have to imagine she's got boatloads of money from Elvis's estate, and she doesn't really have anything to lose, so if anyone can walk away from the cult successfully, I think she's got a decent shot.
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Post by Spinderella on Jul 10, 2012 11:58:12 GMT -4
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Post by kostgard on Jul 11, 2012 22:10:32 GMT -4
Yeah, shady and sad. I feel bad for his mom who found out about her son just because someone saw something about his death online and decided to pass the info along to her. I was reading a piece on the COS in RollingStone from 2006, and a former clam who was in the Sea Org talks about how they wouldn't let him go to the doctor to treat his asthma. He eventually talked them into letting him go and he used the opportunity to blow, but that's probably what happened to this poor kid - he probably had something completely treatable, but because they believe illness is all in your head, they wouldn't let him see a doctor.
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sumire
Blueblood
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Mar 7, 2005 18:45:40 GMT -4
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Post by sumire on Jul 19, 2012 19:10:52 GMT -4
::sigh:: I was disappointed to learn that from the cast of GCB, both Marisol Nichols and Jennifer Aspen are Scientologists. Nichols seems clammier--at the height of the TomKat divorce kerfuffle, she retweeted a Giovanni Ribisi tweet about bigotry, and she's a big supporter of CCHR--but Aspen's tweets are also full of Scieno-celeb name-dropping, and apparently she completed OT III in 2010, so she's still with the cult even after learning about Xenu. (Nichols is at least OT V.) Life advice from Marisol Nichols: Yes. When things are bad, the best thing to do is go to Florida and give more money (or the next billion years of your lives) to Scientology. ---- ETA: Replying to chonies' post from the Elisabeth Moss thread: Also, too easy but...the "winning" phrase makes me wonder if Charlie Sheen ever dabbled in Scientology. You can be a Vatican Warlock Assassin and a Scientologist! No, yeah, it seems he's been exposed to it, but rejected it. From a (very good) 1993 Premiere article about Scientology in Hollywood: From the 2011 Sheen meltdown:
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Post by kostgard on Jul 26, 2012 21:27:12 GMT -4
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sumire
Blueblood
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Mar 7, 2005 18:45:40 GMT -4
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Post by sumire on Aug 11, 2012 0:56:44 GMT -4
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Aug 11, 2012 9:10:50 GMT -4
That's so horrifying and terrifying. That poor young girl who's now an obviously traumatized adult (But doing an awesome job of putting this pain into perspective so far it seems)
Damn, Clams are so evil. I know the Celebs in Scientology are given special treatment and so alledgedly shielded from what goes down in Sea Org. But the info's out there. And now here's an upcoming "celeb" talking from personal experience. I can believe the Travoltas and Cruises of the gang truly are kept that out of touch. But what about the minor Celeb set? Can the Jenny Elfmans, Nancy Cartwrights and Jason Lees really be so cut off as to not notice a new Reality Star talking about the flat out ABUSE she suffered at the hands of this "Church"?
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Post by kostgard on Aug 11, 2012 10:12:35 GMT -4
Oh, Jenna Elfman absolutely drank the Kool-Aid, so she wouldn't spot anything. One time she saw someone wearing a t-shirt with a mild Scientology joke on it (I can't remember what, exactly. Something to do with psychiatrists) and started screaming "What are your crimes?!" at the guy, and then started accusing him of terrible crimes like beating his girlfriend and raping babies. That is straight out of the Clam play book. Not "I'm a Scientologist and your shirt offends me" but "WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES, YOU BABY RAPER?!"
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