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Post by pathtaken on Jul 11, 2013 18:12:45 GMT -4
A lot of Hubbard's ideas sound like typical self help books from the 60s/70s. Hubbard, obviously a narcissist, went mad with power and some of those under him became corrupted by his example.
The Going Clear book made Hubbard's death sound mighty suspicious and in Miscavige's favor.
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Post by eclair on Jul 11, 2013 19:34:47 GMT -4
Well, good for Leah Remini for leaving! I hope she starts some sort of exodus. Although she was fine for decades with other people being disconnected and interogated, she just didn't like it happening to her.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 21:10:37 GMT -4
Nobody cares about Remini and whether or not she leaves. If Travolta or Cruise left, THAT would make major headlines and potentially devastate that organization. I disagree. I think the cult cares a lot. While Travolta and Cruise are huge worldwide stars, Scientology doesn't have many more of that caliber. Will Smith won't fess up, Kirstie Alley's best days are far behind her, and no one under 50 has ever heard of Chick Corea. There are a lot of B-list to D-listers on the Scieno roster and I think the cult likes having that large group, no matter how piddling their careers may be. It makes them look like a going concern.
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Post by pathtaken on Jul 11, 2013 21:25:13 GMT -4
Any time someone leaves publically it's got to help others to start questioning.
Maybe it will start a domino effect?
I'd just love if someone would ask Cruise or Travolta when was the last time they saw Miscavige's wife next time they're promoting crap.
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Post by Oxynia on Jul 11, 2013 22:20:53 GMT -4
I wonder how many rank and file clams will even know she's left...if they live their lives in the Sea Org, their entire existence is curated by the church cult. They don't access media the way we civilians do, and are told what their overlords want them to hear. Do you think they know anything about Miscavige's missing wife or any of his other family issues? Doubtful, and doubtful they will know about or even miss a D-list actress who flew the coop.
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Post by americanchai on Jul 12, 2013 11:19:56 GMT -4
Well, she just released a statement confirming that she left.
In other news: It is totally creepy that there's a Scientology banner ad at the top of this forum thread.
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Post by kostgard on Jul 12, 2013 12:11:46 GMT -4
I wonder how many rank and file clams will even know she's left...if they live their lives in the Sea Org, their entire existence is curated by the church cult. They don't access media the way we civilians do, and are told what their overlords want them to hear. Do you think they know anything about Miscavige's missing wife or any of his other family issues? Doubtful, and doubtful they will know about or even miss a D-list actress who flew the coop. The Sea Org members probably won't hear a thing. They only read clam-approved stuff. Members in the real world will be told that Remini/the media is just telling a bunch of lies and trying to attack them. The clams are great at pulling their folks together by playing the victim and telling their members "it's us against the world! Only we know the truth!" and so on. If the Remini clan did all leave together, they will undoubtedly be branded SPs. They probably won't trash Remini publicly, but they will talk shit about her internally so none of their members will follow her lead. And if anyone thinks Remini is in to something, they won't breathe a word if it, because the clams surrounding them may fill out a "knowledge report" and tattle on them to the church, and then they will have to go through the interrogation Remini did. Nice little system they have set up to keep people from questioning anything, huh? But speaking of knowledge reports, I really gotta hand it to Remini for having the giant, clanging lady balls to complete a knowledge report on Miscavige. Her dedication to filling out the tattle-tale form shows just how much Kool-aid she drank, but it is completely awesome that she was unafraid to fill one out on the head clam.
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Post by sobe on Jul 12, 2013 19:52:19 GMT -4
I want Kirstie Alley to go next (not that I think there is any danger of that happening). She's a little more high profile and you know she would dish the dirt. Definitely not any time soon. Kirstie tweeted this a couple of days ago: But Leah once seemed as big a CoS bulldog as Kirstie. So maybe there's some hope, some day? I wonder how her husband has reacted. I read that her parents and sisters said they wouldn't disconnect, but her husband gave a statement to Tony Ortega last week, saying they didn't have any problems with the CoS.
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Post by kostgard on Jul 12, 2013 20:19:55 GMT -4
Thanks, Kirstie Alley, for proving my "they will call it all lies" and "it's us against them!" theories. The clams are so predictable.
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Post by sumire on Jul 13, 2013 2:43:25 GMT -4
I wonder how her husband has reacted. I read that her parents and sisters said they wouldn't disconnect, but her husband gave a statement to Tony Ortega last week, saying they didn't have any problems with the CoS. I'd like to think that the husband is on the same page as the rest of the Reminis, and was just saying that to avoid raising a flap. After all, the article with his statement was the very, very first of the Remini-blows stories--there wasn't any media coverage yet, and they may have wanted to keep it that way. Given the phrasing... ...maybe he'd spin it on a technicality, that they're angry with Miscavige specifically rather than with the church or something like that. I was wondering if she introduced him to the cult or if he was already in.
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