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Post by cubanitafresca on Jun 13, 2017 9:11:09 GMT -4
I'm reading Jeffrey Tambor's new book and he said that he is still getting phone calls from the COS, because he briefly took classes a few decades ago. He ignores the calls, as he should. Yep once you're on their rolls, it's impossible to get off. Trust me, I've tried. I took a class 23 years ago - I'm still getting mail and calls. I've asked to be removed from their mailing and call list - no luck. In talking to one of the people that called me I realized that they totally inflated my involvement, crediting me with classes I'd never taken. I'm sure that's part of how they back their claim about the church being so active.
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Metairie
Lady in Waiting
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Post by Metairie on Jun 13, 2017 9:30:41 GMT -4
Tell them that you are too busy with your psychiatry practice to take any further classes at this time.
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HotLips
Sloane Ranger
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Mar 14, 2005 15:56:17 GMT -4
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Post by HotLips on Jul 8, 2017 22:30:06 GMT -4
I'm reading Jeffrey Tambor's new book and he said that he is still getting phone calls from the COS, because he briefly took classes a few decades ago. He ignores the calls, as he should. Yep once you're on their rolls, it's impossible to get off. Trust me, I've tried. I took a class 23 years ago - I'm still getting mail and calls. I've asked to be removed from their mailing and call list - no luck. In talking to one of the people that called me I realized that they totally inflated my involvement, crediting me with classes I'd never taken. I'm sure that's part of how they back their claim about the church being so active. I read the rest of Jeffrey's book after I wrote that post and he was actually in COS for two years. He got involved because of Milton Katselas. He said he got really into it but he started to lose interest around the time he met his wife. The COS noticed and called him in for a meeting. They told him to disconnect from his wife and he said "You've just made a big mistake" and walked out. I'm so glad he's not involved anymore. Arrested Development and Transparent are two of my favorite shows and I doubt he would be having so much success in his life if he was still in that cult.
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Post by Ladybug on Aug 8, 2017 20:50:58 GMT -4
It always bums me out when I remember that Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist. From Twitter
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Post by kostgard on Aug 8, 2017 21:47:54 GMT -4
With Remini declared an SP, I think she's technically supposed to avoid being in the same room as her. Total bummer, because I like Moss and kinda hope she's a Scieno in name only (though it appears that isn't the case).
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Post by Smilla on Aug 11, 2017 18:08:07 GMT -4
Moss's Co$ connection is one reason I haven't rewatched Mad Men, despite my love for the series overall.
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Post by Babycakes on Sept 8, 2017 3:14:32 GMT -4
Ho. Ly. Shit. The latest episode of Leah's show is bonkers. This isn't brand new information, but seeing it all laid out like this is going to be Earth shattering for some newbs. I'm laughing and crying, and laughing all over again. We all know this is a cult, but it is still so tragic. These people are brainwashing themselves and paying millions to do so. The people dying of cancer because they think auditing is a cure? I don't even have the words.
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ElleCee
Blueblood
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Oct 19, 2005 21:09:38 GMT -4
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Post by ElleCee on Sept 8, 2017 12:10:40 GMT -4
I know right? That last ep about the "Bridge" was wtf. The money these people put out for nothing is crazy I didn't realize that the numbers were so high. I can see why they don't want their hooks out the celebs who funnel in a lot of it. I imagine Tom Cruise is their cash cow.
I love Leah's show and the new season doesn't disappoint. The stories are just so fucked up. I feel so incredibly bad for all them being caught up in it. So many of the children born into it or forced into by their parental units who then abandoned them and allowed so many of them to be abused by sexual predators.
David Miscavige is a sociopath. I know the next show will focus on him a bit more.
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Post by kostgard on Sept 8, 2017 15:41:18 GMT -4
I think the Miscavige episode was supposed to air this week, which makes me wonder if they ran into some legal issues with that episode and had to delay it.
But this episode was entertaining and informative. I liked when they were showing what auditing was like and the guy asked Leah to list some bad things she'd done, and she said, "I yelled at some people today" and Mike raised his hand like, "Yep. She totally yelled at me."
I am still amazed at how people get sucked in (it's easier to understand people brought in as kids). The little promo videos they kept showing where people are talking about what are essentially super-powers (like the lady who said that Scientology cured her of her summer colds or the guy who could detect the saline level in all his cells)...who could possibly buy that? And the people paying thousands of dollars to get those super powers that never come. I don't understand how they don't just walk away. Just about every other religion is smart enough to promise your rewards will come in the afterlife. You can't prove or disprove what happens after death. But the CoS says you'll get these powers now. Yet no one who has reached OT-whatever will demonstrate these powers for you (because you aren't ready for it! You'll get sick or die!), and as you pay your thousands of dollars you see that you never actually get them, and you keep getting told that there's nothing wrong with the tech, there is something wrong with you. That's why you aren't getting super powers. I just...wow. Why aren't they also selling Fiji mermaids and pictures of Big Foot? That feels like the level of flim-flam here.
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Sept 29, 2024 10:20:43 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 16:32:28 GMT -4
I think a big part of why some people don't walk away is the Sunk Cost Fallacy, they've invested all this time and money into it and are incredibly reluctant to give it up or admit it's bullshit. Plus there's the threat of being cut off from all your loved ones.
I do remember way back when Jason Beghe walked away and he did that interview on YouTube, he was livid about getting ripped off and was actively trying to get his money back. He manged to get his wife's money back for her but I don't know if he ever got his back. And he was lucky like Leah, his family left with him. He said his wife was never all that into it and I think the same is true for Leah's husband.
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