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Post by chiqui on Jun 15, 2005 11:44:13 GMT -4
My regard for Hilary Swank went way down, even though she doesn't play it up by much.
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rorgg
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Post by rorgg on Jun 15, 2005 12:03:16 GMT -4
it seems like quite a few Scieno members talk about the religion and are quick to try and convert others. Are they (for the most part) hateful towards those who oppose the cult and its beliefs? They tend to become that way in time, and the Scientologists more than others. At the start of course, it's all pop-philosophy, repressed memory, clear your conscience stuff that the CoS claims doesn't interfere with any other religion. It's all at least plausible (save the e-meter thing) and it's not really pushed as a religion -- more of an assisted self-help type of program to aid you in reaching your goals. Now, as they get more emotionally invested in it, the CoS starts gradually introducing more bizarre concepts and using what can only be described as brainwashing techniques, culminating in Xenu and blowing up people inside volcanoes with nuclear bombs. But that stuff is many years and thousands of dollars down the road. It's doubtful the celebs get even close to that. Somewhere in the middle, once its been established in the person's head that being in the CoS is a good thing and has helped them, they're strongly encouraged, if not required, to bring in new members. It's a good thing, right? Help others! Of course, part of that is dealing with the reluctance and rejection. Now, where it gets particularly bad with CoS, is that starting with Hubbard and only intensifying in the 30 or whatever years since, there's been a strong culture in the CoS heirarchy that those who oppose the church are Enemies, period, and that enemies are to be fought by any means available, including blackmail, physical intimidation, harassing litigation, propaganda, downlight lies ... you name it. It's all okay. Access to critical information is also forbidden. Again, this never gets to the celebs, but the culture of "us vs. them" and "we have enemies who are bad people" certainly pervades to the indoctrinated, and it seems TC is as far into this as any celeb we've ever seen.
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angel17987
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Post by angel17987 on Jun 15, 2005 12:05:46 GMT -4
Oh God, there's tons. I'll add Hillary Swank and Chad Lowe to the list. Finding out she's a clam made me sad. Say it aint so. Are you sure? I really like them and I would be disapponted if they are indeed clams. If it's true my respect for both of them goes way down. Also, in the divorce pool it was mentioned Jada Pinkett was getting into clamhood. Any truth to that?
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rorgg
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Post by rorgg on Jun 15, 2005 12:08:28 GMT -4
It's almost impossible to tell. The CoS's numbers are very, very inflated. They've published numbers at times that include everyone to ever take a course with them. They also have HUGE sales figures for Dianetics that includes copies given away, and copies bought by CoS members and returned to the publishers for resale. Naturally, most people get out before they get to where you could even consider Scientology a "religion" instead of a pseudoscience.
That said, they are out there, and they tend to congregate. There's a city in Florida -- I think it's Clearwater? That's like the equivalent of Salt Lake City to Mormons. L.A. also has a pretty big collection.
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Post by Auroranorth on Jun 15, 2005 12:34:08 GMT -4
I think Catherine Bell of Jag is one. I liked the show and the character for a while, but this put me off.
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roxpopuli
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Post by roxpopuli on Jun 15, 2005 13:38:47 GMT -4
They're the poor schmucks who gave their life savings to Co$ and are now reduced to being janitors in their church centers. Or the ones manning the local Co$ centers offering to hook you up to their voltmeter to show you why you are not "clear". It's sad, because they are really the victims. Stars get all of the publicity for being in Co$ and we may tsk-tsk at their choice, but it's the average person getting sucked in who suffers.
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Post by marywebgirl on Jun 15, 2005 14:39:34 GMT -4
I think Brandy said she was taking classes, too.
Has anyone heard one way or the other about Jack Black? He mentions Dianetics in a Tenacious D song ("Kielbasa"), but I'm telling myself that he's kidding.
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Post by goggle on Jun 15, 2005 20:15:15 GMT -4
Has anyone heard one way or the other about Jack Black? He mentions Dianetics in a Tenacious D song ("Kielbasa"), but I'm telling myself that he's kidding. Probably. link
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Post by Alexis Machine on Jun 16, 2005 11:47:29 GMT -4
From popbitch:
US media insiders are whispering that Tom Cruise's recent odd behavior can be explained by the actor recently coming off his ADD medicine.
SO....how many vitamins do you think they're shoving down his throat to make him sane again?
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colette
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Post by colette on Jun 16, 2005 12:06:02 GMT -4
Obviously not enough.
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