Celebrity Smart Quotes

[Ginger]

In fact, we were just talking about this a few days ago, as it relates to a guy who wrote a ton of music that was PROFOUND to me when I was a teenager. He wrote about being lonely and feeling unloved, and all the things I was feeling as a teenager.

He grew up to be a reprehensible bigot, and for years I couldn’t listen to one of the most important bands in my life anymore.

But this week, someone pointed out that he was one member of a group that all worked together to make that thing that was so important to me. And the person he was when he wrote those lyrics is not the person he is today.

I'm gonna assume Wil's talking about Morrisey here.

Trying to make Morrisey into two separate people - one who writes profound songs and the other who is a bigot - is a copout. Morrisey is, and only ever has been one person. He's a reprehensible bigot who is also capable of experiencing and expressing feelings about loneliness and love in the form of beautiful music. He has no less humanity now than he did when he was in The Smiths.

That's a concept people really need to come to terms with.

[hildymatildy]

Oct 26, 2021 19:08:21 GMT -4 Ginger said:

In fact, we were just talking about this a few days ago, as it relates to a guy who wrote a ton of music that was PROFOUND to me when I was a teenager. He wrote about being lonely and feeling unloved, and all the things I was feeling as a teenager.

He grew up to be a reprehensible bigot, and for years I couldn’t listen to one of the most important bands in my life anymore.

But this week, someone pointed out that he was one member of a group that all worked together to make that thing that was so important to me. And the person he was when he wrote those lyrics is not the person he is today.

I'm gonna assume Wil's talking about Morrisey here.

Trying to make Morrisey into two separate people - one who writes profound songs and the other who is a bigot - is a copout. Morrisey is, and only ever has been one person. He's a reprehensible bigot who is also capable of experiencing and expressing feelings about loneliness and love in the form of beautiful music. He has no less humanity now than he did when he was in The Smiths.

That's a concept people really need to come to terms with.

Well, of course. No one is all good or all bad. People are complex beings and cannot really be categorized in black and white terms, unfortunately social media doesn't allow for these complexities. For example, the woman on tiktoc going full Karen may have something so heavy and painful on her shoulders that she is utterly miserable and just can't take one more thing going wrong. We don't know the shades of gray in between, that she's sick, in pain, scared, etc.

On the whole, with our consumption of media being so fast paced and shallow, we all need to be reminded what humanity is from time to time.

[scarlet]

This quote by Robert Pattinson cracked me up, because, yeah, relatable:

"When anybody asks me, What are your hobbies? I’m like: Fucking fretting. Worrying about the future.”

[Mouse]

Daniel Radcliffe speaks for all of us when asked about The Slap:

I'm just so already dramatically bored of hearing people's opinions about it that I just don't want to be another opinion adding to it.

[Trixie]

Mar 31, 2022 14:38:25 GMT -4 Mouse said:

Daniel Radcliffe speaks for all of us when asked about The Slap:

I'm just so already dramatically bored of hearing people's opinions about it that I just don't want to be another opinion adding to it.

That’s funny, because as a person who never got into Harry Potter books or movies, I’ve been dramatically bored of hearing/reading about his star vehicle for years.

[prisma]

I don't know if it's a smart quote, but this quote from Tracee Ellis Ross really resonated with me:

On her relationship status and childhood dreams: “Culturally, young girls are taught to dream of their wedding and not the life they want to be living or the people they want to become,” Ross says, “and I was not spared that messaging as a child — not from my mom or my dad, but from the world that we lived in. I spent a lot of time dreaming of my wedding. I can only imagine how much more I would’ve dreamt of — or how much sooner I would’ve got to some of my dreams — had we been in the conversation that we’re in now, had I had people like myself and others to hear from as different examples of how to cultivate happiness and joy and a life that matches you.”

I'm not married and have never had kids and I think I would have been spared a lot of heartache had those two things not been presented as a symbol of your worth as a person. I'm really happy to hear this from someone who comes across as so joyful and living her best life.

[cremetangerine82]

Apr 14, 2022 21:18:35 GMT -4 prisma said:

I don't know if it's a smart quote, but this quote from Tracee Ellis Ross really resonated with me:

On her relationship status and childhood dreams: “Culturally, young girls are taught to dream of their wedding and not the life they want to be living or the people they want to become,” Ross says, “and I was not spared that messaging as a child — not from my mom or my dad, but from the world that we lived in. I spent a lot of time dreaming of my wedding. I can only imagine how much more I would’ve dreamt of — or how much sooner I would’ve got to some of my dreams — had we been in the conversation that we’re in now, had I had people like myself and others to hear from as different examples of how to cultivate happiness and joy and a life that matches you.”

I'm not married and have never had kids and I think I would have been spared a lot of heartache had those two things not been presented as a symbol of your worth as a person. I'm really happy to hear this from someone who comes across as so joyful and living her best life.

I’m definitely feeling this quote as a smart one, there’s so much pressure on women to be wives and to imagine their wedding day as children than to plan their career. I was always a person who wanted to focus on my career, didn’t see myself getting married unless it was absolutely the best decision with the best person, and never wanted kids EVER (I asked for my tubes to be tied at eight to my pediatrician). My dad, who was born in 1929 and not whom I would call a feminist, always emphasized me getting an education over getting married. We should start normalizing women who don’t wanna go down the wife/mother path and not demonized them as being selfish.

[prisma]

Yes, it didn't really occur to me until I hit my mid 40s that I really didn't want kids even though I'd been worried throughout my 20s and 30s that I would not be able to have them. I wanted to hit all the benchmarks that everyone else hits. I think if I'd really wanted kids, I'd find a way to make it happen. And marriage, too. I'm still open to it but honestly I like my space so having a committed relationship with someone who has his own house and is nearby but not too close sounds ideal. But this type of scenario was never painted as an option that was not to be pitied in my larger environment. My immediate family (who are pretty conservatively religious) probably frame me as the maiden aunt role, which is irritating but I'm not going to waste too much effort worrying about it.

[Ladybug]

Nov 18, 2005 14:33:27 GMT -4 prisma said:

probably wishes he could take the son to the vet and have him put to sleep

YIKES

Sorry, this hit me close to home. I have a good friend who lost her son to a drug relapse after multiple trips to rehab and I was with her when she got the phone call. Despite all that his addictions put her through, I think she'd go through it all again to just have one more day with him.

[prisma]

I apologize, Ladybug. There was a lot more surrounding story that teased out the complexities of human relationships but I reduced it to something that made it sound more cruel than it was intended. I'm sorry for your loss and your friend's loss.