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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 7:26:59 GMT -4
I'm not very keen on hip hop in general, be it American or Australian, but I do agree that Aussie hip hop does have it's own flair to it, and it really isn't fair to compare American hip hop with Aussie hip hop. The two were basically born out of different cultures. From what I understand, hip hop was born out of the urban tradition in America, which is something that Australia really doesn't have. It seems like hip hop is almost exclusively limited to African-American rappers, with a few exceptions like Eminem, because it is an expression of their culture, which again, is predominantly black. In Australia, by contrast, we don't have the tradition of the urban vernacular, and what's more, our cities don't really have that characteristic (which is for me impossible to put into words) of "urban culture" that is so important to American hip hop. Basically, Aussie hip hop is more of a free-for-all, while American hip hop is more structured and is limited to a greater extent to a particular type of person. Not saying this is good or bad, I just think it might be an explanation for the differences between the two. I also think that this is a prime reason why Aussie artists shouldn't try to mimic American hip hop artists (i.e., using their language and faking the accent). I think doing so is slightly disrespectful to the American urban culture.
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Post by Yossarian on Nov 1, 2006 1:31:51 GMT -4
The Glass House has been cancelled. C'mon, it wasn't cancelled because Howard thought it was too lefty, it was cancelled because they did the same. old. routines. every. fricking. week. with. the. same. lame. jokes.
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Post by december on Nov 1, 2006 2:41:34 GMT -4
True that it was the same every week, but the fact that it was still rating fairly well, makes me wonder what the hell the ABC is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 3:24:45 GMT -4
The Glass House has been cancelled. C'mon, it wasn't cancelled because Howard thought it was too lefty, it was cancelled because they did the same. old. routines. every. fricking. week. with. the. same. lame. jokes. Woah. Am a bit surprised by this one. Well, sort of. Can I put 'I did not axe The Glass House' into the same box as 'Interest rates will always be higher under a Labor government'? It should also fit in quite nicely with the 'children overboard' bs. Why not just axe the ABC? And the ALP. The Greens, the ACTU and ACOSS can go too. Hell, why not just axe democracy? I mean, voting, the electoral commission, campaigning, all these things cost money. It'd have 'everything to do with economics and nothing to do with editorial policy'. No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 6:11:32 GMT -4
Wil Anderson always struck me as being quite smug, even though he made me laugh. But I don't think The Glasshouse being cancelled was some government conspiracy. Despite the ratings, I think the show had just run its course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 8:33:00 GMT -4
Exactly. It got canned because it's shit. Canned due to 'politically motivated reasons'?? Oookay, if that makes them feel better. The Arsehouse is the Rove of ABC, it's about time it ended. Why TF did John Howard feel the need to expressly say that he didn't ask to get it canned? That show was like amateur hour at the local pub not some gravely important and controversial show reflecting our times. The funniest thing about The Glasshouse is when people described it as featuring "political satire".
I can't stand any of the hosts and the braying laughter of their brain dead audience. Their so called humour really catered to the lowest common denominator. I bet Glasshouse fans love Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy too.
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Post by 180deg on Nov 1, 2006 8:33:26 GMT -4
Despite the ratings, I think the show had just run its course. I'd believe that if a) it was a decision by the production people rather than the ABC board and b) if they gave any kind of reason (low ratings? too expensive? cast wanted to pursue other projects? new comedy show to debut soon?). Ratings are everything, and a show that's extremely cheap to produce, getting a decent amount of viewers (especially younger ones), selling DVDs and not requiring calls to the lawyers (I'm looking at you, Chaser people) stays on air until they've soaked every bit of life out of it. I don't think Glasshouse was at that point yet. Government conspiracy? No. The current ABC board making stupid, random, pro-Government decisions that make no sense? Well, that unfortunately seems to be the norm now. Have you checked your contract, Monica Attard?
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Post by hal9000 on Nov 1, 2006 11:59:23 GMT -4
Canned due to 'politically motivated reasons'?? Oookay, if that makes them feel better. The Arsehouse is the Rove of ABC, it's about time it ended. You hit the nail on the head.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 15:09:59 GMT -4
Do Aussie's get into Guy Fawkes Night in a big way? (Or Canadians, for that matter...) We used to in NZ when I was a kid, it was right up there with Xmas. Big bonfire, "penny for the Guy", tossing him on the bonfire, fireworks, firecracker fights with the neighbor kids. Good times. It amazes me I survived.
My last Guy Fawkes Night was actually in Italy, when I was a US Navy brat in Naples. Some RAF types who lived by us invited us to their shindig. It was my favorite Guy Fawkes Night ever since 1) the alcohol flowed like water and my 16-year-old self sucked down large quantities, and 2) one of the first rockets went off course and hit the big box of fireworks, resulting in pandemonium. All these stiff upper lip types running for their lives through the rockets red glare, while being careful not to spill the gin & tonic, was a sight that will live with me to the day I die.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 16:35:41 GMT -4
I can't speak for all Aussies, but in Newcastle (where I hail from), it isn't a big deal at all. In fact, I think the only people who celebrate Cracker Night are fifteen year-olds who love any excuse they can find to light firecrackers and blow stuff up.
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