zacandmax
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Post by zacandmax on Aug 7, 2005 21:59:39 GMT -4
I don't know what to say. I started crying when Ruth was washing Nate's body.
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Post by snacktastic on Aug 7, 2005 22:11:13 GMT -4
It is very sad. It's really horrifying how Nate's life ended and how messy it all is. I do feel sorry for Maggie. I think the idea that he's beyond good and evil is interesting in this context. I mean, sure she fucked up but NOONE deserves to have some guy die as an indirect result of having sex with him. Sorry, I can't be that harsh on her character. She didn't murder babies or anything. She did something grevious, but the results are entirely disproportionate to what they actually did. Infidelity is one thing and accountability, but sudden and horrifying death is another.
The horror of death presented by this show is incredibly compelling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2005 22:17:46 GMT -4
Yeah, in spite of myself I started feeling sorry for Maggie. She had sex with him and then he died and her sense of guilt must be enormous. Truth be told, he probably would have died soon anyway if all that brain crap was messed up with him so placing the blame with her is unfair.
That's when I lost it too. I was sad before that and started to get really depressed when David was having the conversation with Nate Sr. but with the washing and then Claire's breakdown, I was crying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2005 23:14:34 GMT -4
Well, I wept like Maggie at the burial service all through this episode.
Nate and his birds:
And when George called Nate "an Idealist" who was always looking for the perfect thing. And David tells Brenda that Nate specified cremation and a service from that rabbi that he was involved with. It just made me realize what a flibbergibbet that Nate actually was. He had adult attention deficit disorder. He was always rushing after the next new experience or woman or job or something. The man had no constancy and no emotional substance. But I'm weeping at his funeral like Maggie and the Carpenter and the Walrus all combined.
Brenda: "Leave me alone!" And they did. There she was in her red car abandoned in the burial green park.
And I liked David's attacker in the red hoodie as a symbol of his rising anxiety. You can't totally control life or death, David. Take a xanax or two.
And Ruth: "You have legs." Well, your legless grandma doesn't!
And Maggie-----Zip. Admit your actions and apologize or just disappear. What are all your offerings (quiche? and I swear that I thought she was one of those people who leave flowers at a tragic site. but no, she broke the flowers, not left them) for? When you are appeasing someone; you both have to know what the appeasement is for.
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Post by WitchyPoo on Aug 8, 2005 1:04:19 GMT -4
I was glad to see David vulnerable and Ruth come in strong. When the shit hits the fan...... Michael C. Hall. Frances Conroy and Lauren Ambrose never let me down. The invisible writers on this show are just plain, fucking amazing. Never the easy way out. Never a clean answer. Complicated, funny, disturbing. Fuck. I'm going to miss this show.
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Post by huntergrayson on Aug 8, 2005 1:58:13 GMT -4
I lost it when Maya asked "where's daddy." After a whole season of not speaking, now she gets lines. And they're sad.
It'd be really interesting if David had to turn to Brenda as a therapist for his PTSD relapse. I could see him not wanting to go to a "Real therapist" so that he could still be in some form of denial.
I just wish they hadn't listed Jeremy Sisto in the credits so that the last scene would have some tension when Brenda thought it was an intruder. I mean, it is. But it's her intruder. Aww...and possibly ew.
I'm already liking Lawyer Ted so much that Claire's bitching him out in the previews makes me feel sorry for him.
Why don't I remember Keith and Roger actually doing it last season?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2005 8:47:46 GMT -4
I think my favorite exchange was this:
David: Couldn't you have changed?
Claire: No. No I couldn't.
David: Well the rest of us managed to.
Claire: Well, the rest of you win!
Heh. Anal David and angry Claire are my favorites.
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zacandmax
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Post by zacandmax on Aug 8, 2005 11:04:38 GMT -4
Ruth so nailed it on the head when she said that she and David were most alike. I thought she and Claire were the same, but in this season, David is turning into his mother, from his interaction with his boys, to the breakdown at the burial. That breakdown was classic Ruth.
I also lost it when Claire flashed back to when she smoked her first joint with Nate. It was so believable that he could have been a girly fan when Cobain died. He has just that type of personality. And Claire finally had her good memory of her brother. Damn.
And who on here thinks that David is thisclose to hitting a crack pipe? I wouldn't be surprised. At all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2005 11:22:08 GMT -4
That made me crazy. Claire was so young in that flashback and I couldn't believe that he was giving her a joint. Ugh. It made me hate Nate all over again.
Oh yeah, David is very close to the crack pipe. However, I think this will be one of those times where the fact that he's like Ruth. I think his kids will pull him through the mess just like how Mya will pull Ruth through it.
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Post by slashgirl on Aug 9, 2005 10:39:58 GMT -4
Yeah, in spite of myself I started feeling sorry for Maggie. She had sex with him and then he died and her sense of guilt must be enormous. Truth be told, he probably would have died soon anyway if all that brain crap was messed up with him so placing the blame with her is unfair. After this week's episode, not only do I not feel sorry for Maggie, I despise her more than ever. Bringing that quiche to Brenda was bad enough, but her going to the funeral was obscene. Maggie had no right to be there. If she had any semblance of class, she would've stayed away, for Brenda's sake. To quote a post from TWOP's SFU forums:
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