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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:58:31 GMT -4
He wishes people were afraid of him! Kirk did have one known pedophile in his realm, if not two. Bob Villard represented Leo DiCaprio, who became a regular cast member of Growing Pains. And, according to the Amy Berg documentary, another pedophile might have briefly been around the set as well. But Leo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains after Kirk found Christ in a big way, so who knows?
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Post by sumire on Nov 25, 2014 5:00:02 GMT -4
Kirk did have one known pedophile in his realm, if not two. Bob Villard represented Leo DiCaprio, who became a regular cast member of Growing Pains. And, according to the Amy Berg documentary, another pedophile might have briefly been around the set as well. But Leo DiCaprio was on Growing Pains after Kirk found Christ in a big way, so who knows? There's a more direct connection between Bob Villard and Kirk Cameron--check some of the photo credits for the first three rows here. It seems Bob Villard photographed tons of young 80s actors--Tom Cruise, Scott Baio, Ricky Schroeder, Michael J. Fox, Jason Bateman. As a tween, I never gave much thought to where those pin-ups in my magazines were coming from--it's pretty sickening, in retrospect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 14:03:44 GMT -4
The ones of Glenn Scarpelli are the most red-flag worthy, but I looked him up on Wiki and he seems to have gone on to live a pretty nice and normal life. That doesn't preclude him from having been abused, though. There's just no way to know who this predator's victims were unless they decide to speak out.
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Nov 27, 2014 7:35:35 GMT -4
Kirkles is the same idiot who thinks Stephen Hawking is stupid and people only like him because they feel sorry for him because he's disabled. I wonder what he thinks now that The Theory of Everything is getting rave reviews and has already started racking up awards that aren't Razzies while his own film bombed harder than Dresden.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 11:33:05 GMT -4
I'm sure it would just feed his persecution complex. You just can't win with fanatics like him. Their warped brains won't let you.
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Post by chiqui on Nov 27, 2014 14:08:53 GMT -4
Maybe the extreme religosity is a manifestation of a personality disorder. They usually show up in adolesence or young adulthood. Sometimes they are brought up by stress.
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Post by chonies on Nov 27, 2014 16:24:33 GMT -4
Maybe the extreme religosity is a manifestation of a personality disorder. They usually show up in adolesence or young adulthood. Sometimes they are brought up by stress. I wonder about this, too. Anything that's so consuming seems off somehow, and it's unclear whether because it violates social norms or otherwise seems anti-social. Kirk's religious obsessions seem truly delusional, and I don't mean that in the Dennett/Hitchens/Dawkins way, just that he seems so consumed and driven and utterly out of synch, even to the brink of instability to himself and his family. Weren't there several reports that he's broke and Candace is helping him out? I have no idea how much someone can make in ministry (as the reality ranges from $0 to $millions and millions), but it seems like this is the number one thing in his life. My sister had a boyfriend who was obsessed with pro wrestling. Video taped every program (it was ca. 2000, ok?), had all the posters and magazines, went to every show, went to every fan event, saw each contingent off at the airport, had a wrestling-themed tattoo, etc. He was about 25 and prioritized every dollar he made at his low-wage job for wrestling fandom and designed his life around it. It's possible that Something Happened and this is what made him feel safe and secure, or that he had a purpose, or maybe this is part of his wiring. At the time, I hypothesized that he was having issues dealing with some truths about his sexuality, and I don't mean that to be snarky or flip, but it occurred to me that it was sort of out of synch with things that a purportedly heterosexual man had life-sized posters of oily, spandexed hypermasculine dudes in his bedroom--his favorite wrestler was not beefy, though. My point is, I don't know if Kirk's obsession is the problem, or he has a problem and it's manifesting this way. I don't think it's necessarily the thing (in this case, religion), but rather the way the thing is affecting his life. I don't know enough about addictions or delusional thinking to have a serious thought about this, but is it possible that a genetic predisposition to addiction (don't know if he has one) might erupt as an addiction to fundamentalist religion?
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Post by Kaleidoscope Eyes on Nov 27, 2014 16:48:00 GMT -4
I think those are valid questions to ask, Chonies, and I wonder the same thing.
Not sure if I can add anything to the discussion, but I've been observing fundies and the various permutations fundamental religion has taken over the last 30 or so years. And, this is all merely conjecture and bias on my own part, but the way Kirk projects his religion is not at all surprising to me. It's very in keeping with what I've observed over the years. I see it as a performance of sorts. The impression I've gotten is that you should perform your religion in a specific way or you're not a good Christian. And he seems to be a pro at performing this particular vein of fundie-ism. He has every little last aspect down pat, including the head shaking and condescending grin when someone tries to inject critical thought into the conversation.
To be clear, I'm not saying he's faking it all. When I use the word performance, I'm referring to it in an everyday, unconscious context...the way we perform our gender, our sexuality, our race, how we perform being a spouse, a partner, a co-worker, a friend, and all of the various permutations of roles we inhabit on a daily basis. With Kirk, I see someone who performs fundie Christianity in a way that seems all too familiar and head-desky to me.
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Post by famvir on Nov 27, 2014 16:52:31 GMT -4
That skeevy Aussie that he is always filmed with may be feeding into his issues. There is almost an adoration in the way Cameron looks at him. A dumb "ah man, you are SO smart" nodding and "I would have NEVER thought of that" when the guy talked about the banana. The same with the "how to talk to an atheist" or "turn a gay guy."
This dang app. Now my new sig is this it seems;
where he would
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Dec 5, 2014 14:33:19 GMT -4
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