Beverly Hills, 90210

[carrier76]

Andrea was addicted to mom hair and high-waisted pants. JUST AS DANGEROUS AS COCAINE.

I would agree with you, if not for the ridiculous circumstances of her getting "wasted" in the first place. She had, what, half a glass of champagne, and instantly became knee-walking drunk? Again IIRC, but I think they even established that she was allergic to alcohol, so it wasn't Really Her Fault. They must have been afraid to show her finishing a drink, choosing to take another, then choosing to take another, until she was over the line, the same way they had Brandon rolling on U4EA because whatsername, Emily , slipped him a mickey, NOT because he'd chosen to dose.

Well, actually, Donna kept asking for more champagne. I recall her being all, "I like champagne!" And she said she hadn't eaten all day so she could fit into that...frock. Thus, wastedness. This happened to me the first time I drank drank, I didn't eat all day and after a bottle of Boone's, I was wasted for the WHOLE NIGHT. Good times.

[discoprincess]

Yeah, this was definitely mom hair, but it wasn't always that way.

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I will forever be pissed that TPTB never threw poor Ohndrea a bone and let her get with Brandon for a while. I mean, she still could have had her shotgun wedding and annoying husband and co-ed dorm/babyshack but let her get a little Brandon lovin' first! When that show started, they were both so self righteous - they totally deserved each other (because no one else was good enough!). It really bugs me because Ohndrea just wasn't seen to be as "pretty" as the other girls on the show so it was like they had to save pretty boy Brandon for someone as pretty or something. Blech!

Hell, even when Ohndrea almost hooked up with Steve (I have so much creepy love for Steve - Ian Ziering 4-Eva!!) when they were studying for the SATs I believe that it was set up like Steve was such a horndog that he would put the moves on ANYONE - including poor, glasses-wearing Ohndrea.

[carrier76]

I always liked Andrea and Steve's relationship...ALWAYS! It seemed like those actors had great chemistry; I wonder if that's why they always ended up in situations together.

[Beyle]

Yeah, Steve and Ohndrea would've been a cool relationship for the show.

What were your opinions of Steve and Claire? She could be a stuck-up bitch from time to time.

[thesurlymermaid]

Yay! the pilot episode is on now on Soapnet! So glad the cruddy final few seasons are OVER.

Actually all the seasons after Brenda left were sorta cruddy.

[carrier76]

The other day I watched the episode when Brenda and Dylan start dating....it just KILLS me when Brandon gets in Dylan's face at school (this is before Dylan stands Brenda up) and yells at him, "Dylan, she's a VIRGIN!" I would KILL my brother for that! KILL HIM!

[thesurlymermaid]

carrier76 said:

The other day I watched the episode when Brenda and Dylan start dating....it just KILLS me when Brandon gets in Dylan's face at school (this is before Dylan stands Brenda up) and yells at him, "Dylan, she's a VIRGIN!" I would KILL my brother for that! KILL HIM!

I know! I would have absolutely blown a gasket if that were my brother.

And then as the show went on and became worse, notice how smug Brandon stopped being concerned about his sister at all? His character became such a jerk.

[hamhock]

Dwan, you see this?

Slate article on 90210

[Wol]

What the Slate article fails to mention, that was discussed in the media after the show took off, was that in the beginning the show was actually pretty dark because no one was watching and the FOX channel was still pretty new. Brandon losing his virginity right away, Kelly and Donna as hard core party mean girls, Dylan as a dangerous loner abandoned by his parents at 16...all of this gave way to the "very special episode" message shows and the "important" storylines about date rape and breast cancer awareness AFTER the producers and the network realized that people - in particular young people - were watching the show in large numbers. Then it turned into a real nighttime soap.

I was scarred for life by David Silver's "performance" at the beach club. It's a monument to surrealism - his singing and musical abilities are terrifyingly bad, but all the actors are head bopping and smiling like this is the best shit since the Beatles broke up. It makes my head hurt so much.

I worked with Jason Priestley - nice, cool guy - at the height of the 90210 madness. The screaming girls, the hounding paparazzi, all of it was real and pretty scary. On the one hand I felt badly for him - he had to miss a friend's birthday party because he didn't want the paps to follow him there and bug his friends - and on the other hand we gave him shit for trying to act embarrassed that he and Luke Perry were spending their x-mas vacation skiing in Gstaad. He wanted to be a director even back then and was always hanging around with the DP. I loved how they would bring back Emily Valentine once a year, probably so Christine Elise could keep up her SAG insurance.

Gabrielle Carteris lives in my neighborhood. I see her out at restaurants with her husband and her kids. They could not be more normal.