King of Queens

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LaconicChick, I want to hate it! I just don't!

[groovethang]

I love the show but sometimes I would hate how many of the episodes focused on Carrie being really mean and Doug not being around her at all. I figured that many they weren't getting along in real life so the episodes were designed to separate them. In the beginning, they had a much more loving show and then it kind of went the way of Everybody Loves Raymond where Debra openly loathed Raymond.

I will say, though, that the episode where Carrie thinks Doug is going to a weight management class but he instead seeks solace at an abused spouse support group (just because they have donuts and other junk) is hysterical.

[JDub]

I stopped watching somewhere in the season after she had her daughter, because everytime I tried to tune in after they juggled it's day around it was being preempted by a game or for some reason wasn't on. So I stopped trying. Then when I did catch it I really couldn't take much of the Spence/Danny storylines, even though Spence was my favorite character. I couldn't give a shit about Danny.

My favorite scene from the show was the ep where their new neighbors' dog barked incessantly, and Doug ended up walking their dog for them. When Carrie finds out she runs over and bitches at the neighbors. I about died laughing at that monologue the first time I saw it. I had taped it and must have watched that scene at least a dozen times in the weeks that followed. Probably because that's kinda how I act.

I'm also a big fan of the Upstairs Wife/Downstairs Wife ep.

[petals]

I hate to break up the love-fest but I hate this show. The shrill wife is just horrible. The only one that gets a laugh out of me is George's dad--isn't he basically playing the same character as he did on Seinfeld?

But the wife is disgusting. As a person. I do think she has a great body though.

[cocobean]

petals said:

I do think she has a great body though.

Even when she gained 28 billion pounds of baby weight?

[linared]

I do like this show ok. But I think that my favorite example of the fat guy/hot wife show was Grounded for Life. I think that show worked because Donal Logue was actually hot and both him and his wife were equally immature.

[muffinette]

But the wife is disgusting. As a person.

Oh thank gawd someone else said it (and I swear I'm not stalking you Petals!). I never understood all the fat guy/hot wife hoopla surrounding this show, because I saw a nice, hardworking, humble simple guy with a shrill, selfish, utterly despicable wife, and that made me hate the show in time. What did he see in her?

Remember that episode where Doug had something very important to discuss with his parents (was it a Do Not Resuscitate order in their wills?) and he begged Carrie to delay their flight to buy him some time? Carrie of course, had a hair appointment, so she refused. Or rather, she said she would, and then she secretly didn't follow through. Nice.

[linared]

I think in the show, Carrie's hotness was supposed to compsenate for her foul attitude. And Doug's good nature was supposed to compsenate for him being overweight. Which is a pretty messed up attitude.

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I do think she has a great body though.



Even when she gained 28 billion pounds of baby weight?

She has a great body now. She was a little too skinny when the show started, had a natural weight gain during and after her pregnancy, and then lost some of the baby weight but not all of it. One of the few things I appreciate about Leah Remini is how she didn't go all Gwen Stefani about her baby weight and lose it all and then some in a flash. It was also great how they just tried to hide her pregnancy rather than make Carrie pregnant as well. Seeing the Heffernans go all soft for their baby would have taken the mean edge away from the show that makes it fun to watch.

[SluttyMary]

linared said:

I think in the show, Carrie's hotness was supposed to compsenate for her foul attitude. And Doug's good nature was supposed to compsenate for him being overweight. Which is a pretty messed up attitude.

I don't always think that's the case in this show. Yes, she's supposed to be harsh, but she could be sweet too, and he could be very selfish.
Like in the episode where he wasn't interested in her at all and she asked him if he ever thought about her during the day, because she thought of him a lot. He didn't and showed up at her work trying to catch her not thinking of him.
Or when he saw a picture of her mother, realised she was a big woman and was freaked that Carrie would gain weight as well. Or when she was trying to make friends and he didn't want to go out with them so he scared them away by being disgusting and she thought it was because they didn't like her.
Or when he wasn't feeling good about his weight and then started to comment on her looks to make her insecure.
Or when they played ping pong and he couldn't deal with the fact that she won over him, so he practised and when he thought he won over her, he jumped up and down and gloated until she had to admit that she let him win.

Not to put Doug down, I actually like this show but I don't think it's as simple as a good, fat guy and bad, hot wife. I like it the best when they work together like in the episode with the horrible painting of them where she had a giant arm and he had rabbit teeth or when they thought it would be fair that Deacon and Kelly watched Arthur since they watch their kids.