Sean Penn

[ladyboy]

No, he just beat the shit out of their editor.

(Not really, but it was believable, right?)

[Ladybug]

I don't remember if he sued or not, but he came out of that marriage looking pretty bad. Everyone knew it was doomed, but I think people were shocked at how badly it ended.

His rep for attacking paparazzi went back to when he dated Elizabeth McGovern. It's not just the Madonna incident that gave him the abuser rep. He also got in trouble for having concealed weapons in his car in Marin county.

I think if he expressed interest, Madonna would get back together with him in a heartbeat. She always carried a torch for him. But he'd never do that because she's about 20 years too old for him now.

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I think he gets an ego boost knowing he can yank her chain.

[CAgirl]

I always thought that the song "Til Death do us Part" from Madonna's Like a Prayer album was about Sean. It's basically about an abusive relationship.

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Dec 18, 2015 11:48:52 GMT -4 prisma said:

I had to go back and read the specifics about why Penn is suing Daniels because I'd forgotten. This is the offending statement:

During a September interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Daniels defended his choice of hiring Howard as Lucious Lyon:

“That poor boy,” he says, fiercely protective of his actor. He then alludes to other actors who have been the subject of domestic abuse allegations in the past. “[Terrence] ain’t done nothing different than Marlon Brando or Sean Penn, and all of a sudden he’s some f—in’ demon,” says Daniels. “That’s a sign of the time, of race, of where we are right now in America.”

I realize that Terrence Howard has been arrested more times for domestic violence. But in Daniels' quote, he doesn't specifically mention domestic violence. In general, Sean Penn is a hot head who has resorted to violence lots of times. The specifics may differ, but he's hardly the picture of an emotionally healthy adult. I think the whole thing is an ugly gray area but I don't think Madonna's accusation that Penn beat her is the single thing that's responsible for creating his bad reputation.
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This is kind of similar to Lindsay Lohan's offense at Jennifer Lawrence statement, IMO. Both statements were in poor taste but there's still a lot of truth in there.

I don't understand how Sean Penn's whining rose to the level of a lawsuit. He's a public figure and there is plenty of documentation to prove he has a propensity for violence. But it's free speech should have nipped this in the bud from the get go. The precedent this would set if he were to win is actually chilling. All that aside, I think Lee Daniels is off the mark. Penn and Brando came from a different time, a time when women were routinely considered to "have it coming" when a man abused them. Besides, Terrence Howard's career has survived and thrived though all of this. The thing he, Brando, and Penn really have in common is that they are talented men and the entertainment industry is very quick to look the other way and even support these men when they abuse women (and there are a lot more men than these three as an example of this). With his defense of Terrence Howard, Lee Daniels is just another sexist Hollywood asshole as far as I'm concerned.

[tortuga]

Interviewed El Chapo for Rolling Stone. Because why not?

[waytoocheerful]

Jan 9, 2016 22:24:32 GMT -4 tortuga said:

Interviewed El Chapo for Rolling Stone. Because why not?

He's dumb. As soon as I heard he was the actor linked to El Chapo, I went to the Death Pool to call him. As someone said, if El Chap or the cartel think he was caught because of Sean Penn, bye-bye Sean Penn. He may have a bounty on his head and on the heads of everyone he is supposed to love.

[eclair]

He is so arrogant.

[deeconsistent]

Jan 10, 2016 0:19:23 GMT -4 waytoocheerful said:

Jan 9, 2016 22:24:32 GMT -4 tortuga said:

Interviewed El Chapo for Rolling Stone. Because why not?

He's dumb. As soon as I heard he was the actor linked to El Chapo, I went to the Death Pool to call him. As someone said, if El Chap or the cartel think he was caught because of Sean Penn, bye-bye Sean Penn. He may have a bounty on his head and on the heads of everyone he is supposed to love.

This was my thinking initially, but according to tortuga's link,Guzman was actually soliciting actors to try to get a movie made about his life. His hideout was raided once after the first 7-hour sitdown dinner and after that Guzman resumed contact with Penn to conduct a video interview. Not saying Penn isn't dumb, but El Chapo was itching to get this out there, for some reason.


eta waytoocheerful It's not just that he initiated contact, but that he continued contact with Penn and Rolling Stone after the first raid. Also, the way the story is presented makes it sound like Penn didn't really know where the meeting location was or Guzman's whereabouts for the video submission. But, of course, there's no way to predict a heroine kingpin's logic and I do agree that it just isn't a risk I'd have been willing to take.

[waytoocheerful]

I don't think it matters much who initiated the meeting. What matters is whether or not anybody in the cartel thinks the meeting led to El Chapo's capture. Drug lords aren't exactly known for their reasonable reactions. I linked this in the death pool too.

The marines’ successes have not been without great cost—for the soldiers and their families. After a marine was killed in the takedown of Beltran Leyva, the Mexican government made the mistake of giving the dead soldier a public funeral with a gun salute—which meant he could be identified. Cartel killers took revenge at a candle-lit vigil for the marine in Tabasco state. They murdered his mother, brother, sister and aunt. On another occasion, members of the Zetas kidnapped four marines in Veracruz state, and tortured and killed them on video.

All it takes is for one to decide Penn was a snitch or to just want to send a message to anybody else.

eta:A Mexican official says "El Chapo" Guzman's secret interview with actor Sean Penn helped authorities locate his whereabouts."

If I'm Robin Wright, I am terrified for my children. If I work for Rolling Stone, I'm not exactly sleeping soundly.