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Post by laurenj on Jan 6, 2010 18:26:36 GMT -4
I thought so too. It might be because I related to the sister's character more but I thought she nailed the frustration of having to hold back or to adjust everything around someone who is entirely self-centered.
I love the scene where the father is trying to make her rearrange her wedding seating chart for her sister and she goes "can't I have one day?" I had pretty much that same conversation with my own father when I was planning my wedding (though he wanted me to include her in every aspect of the planning, not just the seating) and I really resented the implication that my wedding day should be about her. It also blew up quite spectacularly, as I figured it would, so I'm still a little bitter.
I quite liked all the family dynamic scenes, but the extended musical montages and waaaaaaaay drawn out rehearsal dinner scene pretty much ruined an otherwise good movie for me.
There was no need to hear every single toast or see every single song they danced to at the wedding. The gist of it all could have been achieved in a few smaller, simpler scenes.
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Post by MrsCatHead on Jan 7, 2010 22:13:57 GMT -4
Yeah, those bits were a little bit in love with themselves. But otherwise, a good film. For all the reasons listed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2010 14:30:50 GMT -4
Watched this earlier this week, and I totally agree: had they been a little more aggressive with the editing, this would have been an amazing movie to me. I thought the performances were spot-on, and it was just this great, intimate portrait of a completely dysfunctional family. However, the last 30 minutes, where about 25 of them were of the wedding ceremony or people dancing at the reception, fell flat for me and made it end with a whimper instead of a bang.
He did, although I thought you could totally see how he was a total enabler, turning a blind eye to his daughter's drug addiction in order to keep the family peace. And while, in her big scene with her mom, Kym was totally just trying to pass the burden of blame onto someone else, I did agree that her parents probably knew she was a total junkie and had no business entrusting the care of their preschooler to her. Doesn't mean that Kym wasn't ultimately responsible for her own actions and her brother's death: just that in their desire to keep the family peace, they helped create the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 12:12:34 GMT -4
What I took from the scene with Kim and her mother was that her mom desperately wanted Kim to be "normal" and "good," and she gave the appearance of being that way around her little brother. Mom turned a blind eye to the potential dangers because Kim was "at her best" with her brother.
Yeah, I actually ended up FF'g through a lot of it. In fact, I hit FF the second Sidney started singing. I kept hitting play, and he still wasn't done with the singing. Whenever the family and friends were all gathered around with that serene "aren't we wonderful people" smile on their faces I wanted to throw up! We had violins! bongos! Sarees! Random Asian couple! I'm surprised the dog wasn't three-legged or something. Oh well, at least he was black (I kid!). I also couldn't underwent why there weren't any young children running around and playing. No little nieces, nephews, or cousins pissing people off? What kind of wedding is this!?
So with the ability to FF, this movie is very good. The scenes mentioned were well done and true to life. When Kim was driving away after the fight with her mother I felt her pain and anger. But I guarantee if I watched this trapped in a movie theater I would have HATED it!
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Post by Hamatron on Oct 3, 2012 0:36:32 GMT -4
Oh yeah. This movie. There was some great stuff in it. Great performances. And then, there was like, three hours of family wedding footage.
You know when you end up at a wedding where you sort of know the bride or groom, and you're happy for them and happy for the free wine, but you don't really care to make the effort with any of the people you meet there because you've been to dozens of these things and you know you will never see these random friends and family members again? That was how I felt about those parts. Congrats on your total hipster wedding, rich people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 7:47:42 GMT -4
I really didn't like any of the wedding stuff, with the Hindu ceremony and the saris and whatnot. I'm not a fan of cultural misappropriation so that rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by Mutagen on Oct 3, 2012 15:43:24 GMT -4
I really didn't like any of the wedding stuff, with the Hindu ceremony and the saris and whatnot. I'm not a fan of cultural misappropriation so that rubbed me the wrong way. Same. At first I thought it was a purposeful comment on the type of family Rachel and Kym came out of, like kind of highlighting their upper middle class bubble, but in the end I wasn't really sure how to take it.
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Post by Neurochick on Oct 7, 2012 8:11:16 GMT -4
I really didn't like any of the wedding stuff, with the Hindu ceremony and the saris and whatnot. I'm not a fan of cultural misappropriation so that rubbed me the wrong way. Same. At first I thought it was a purposeful comment on the type of family Rachel and Kym came out of, like kind of highlighting their upper middle class bubble, but in the end I wasn't really sure how to take it. I took it as these people had money. I can imagine Rachel saying, "I want this at my wedding and I want that, and that, and that." And what she wants doesn't go together, but if you have money to do it, no one's stopping you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2012 9:30:20 GMT -4
That would explain how ridiculous it was. Culture isn't for sale, it's something to be shared. I'd love to see a parody movie that consisted solely of Rachel's friends and family and their ridiculous wedding preparations cause it's like there was an entirely different movie going on in the background of Kim and Rachel's drama and could have been comedy gold.
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Post by Neurochick on Oct 7, 2012 18:01:01 GMT -4
That would explain how ridiculous it was. Culture isn't for sale, it's something to be shared. I'd love to see a parody movie that consisted solely of Rachel's friends and family and their ridiculous wedding preparations cause it's like there was an entirely different movie going on in the background of Kim and Rachel's drama and could have been comedy gold. It's kind of like Patsy and Edina from 'Absolutely Fabulous' were planning a wedding and had money to burn. I could see them taking a mish mosh of different cultures, not because they have any type of feeling for them, but because they like the colors. It's kind of like a party at work where we got all types of ethnic foods (Caribbean, Italian, Greek, Chinese) because we didn't want anybody to feel left out, and the only thing that was completely gone was the fried calamari.
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