Elisabeth Moss

[Ladybug]

I've seen pictures of her at one of those celebrity Scientology events. I think she posed with either Kelly Preston or Jenna Elfman. Apparently, she was born into it.

I listened to her on the Mad Men S1 DVD commentary and I could barely comprehend what she was saying. It was 30 minutes of talking that ended up not meaning a whole helluva lot. It reminded me of those crazy Scieno promotion videos that Tom Cruise was in, except even less understandable. She was discussing her acting philosopy with a heavy dose of clam-speak. Everyone else on the DVDs were funny and/or informative, but she just really annoyed me.

[kbchase]

She bugs me like few others do.
I find her to be very, very fug, and I hate Peggy just because I find Elisabeth so ugly!

[Deleted]

I am very disappointed to hear she's a Scieno. Bummer.

[Deleted]

Oh no! Moss is a Scieno? This bugs like hell. I do love Peggy very much. Oh well, at least I still got Joan.

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She has very beautiful skin and eyes but the overall effect is meh. I felt the same way when she was on The West Wing.

[Sancho]

Well, it is a shame that she's a Scieno since that tells me that she is a soulless idiot. However, I gotta say, I think she's a damn good actress. I've seen her play three parts -- on The West Wing, Invasion, and Mad Men -- with characters who were totally different from one another, and yet I found her to be totally convincing as all of them. So, I do think she has talent.

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If she was born into it, wouldn't it make it not her fault as much if she's a Scientologist?

I'm perplexed how people like Tom Cruise or Katie Holmes who are not born into it but come from it from the outside get drawn into these things. If you've been exposed to other things in life then I would think you'd automatically laugh at Scientology even if you're born with even the fewest brain cells possible.

But I figure if you're born into it (like Suri has been) you would have been lectured on it so much from a young age that it kind of becomes ingrained in you. Scientology makes no sense to me whatsoever, but if people born into it view it as a religion and if they're cut off from regular science and other subjects like that, I guess I could see how it becomes a part of you in the same way other religions might. Unless she went on to study other subjects further, I think it would be less easy for someone born into to break away.

I have no idea how someone like Katie Holmes who got accepted into Columbia managed to be ensnared into its clutches though.

[Ladybug]

I have no idea how someone like Katie Holmes who got accepted into Columbia managed to be ensnared into its clutches though.

I think Katie Holmes's greed, ambition, and famewhorishness had a lot to do with her willingness to accept Tom's proposal to join the clams. Her intelligence, while questionable, had nothing to do with it.

I haven't heard of Moss trying to recruit others into the "religion." She might be like a lot of kids who grew up in very religious homes, once they get out on their own and see the world they kind of fall away with the faith they were raised in, but maybe still identify in some way with it. The lapsed Catholics out there know what I'm talking about. You might not believe all of it anymore, or go to mass, but part of you will always remember some elements of the faith.

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If she was born into it, wouldn't it make it not her fault as much if she's a Scientologist?

That's my view as well. It can be very hard to reject what we're taught as children, even trivial things. I imagine with Scientology it'd be incredibly difficult to see the wrongness of it if you're born into it. She doesn't seem like she's loudly obnoxious about it, so I'm inclined to cut her a tiny bit of slack for it. The Masterson brothers are total d-bags though so they get no pass born into it or not.

[Freelance Exorcist]

The lapsed Catholics out there know what I'm talking about. You might not believe all of it anymore, or go to mass, but part of you will always remember some elements of the faith.

True. I haven't identified as Catholic for 20 years and have drifted away from nearly all of the dogma, but I still have the habit of crossing myself when I drive past a Catholic church and giving special care to items that have been blessed. I just do it without thinking.

I guess the difference with lapsing as a Catholic and leaving Scientology is that the Scienos pile on lots of very real threats and harassment, where in my experience, the worst you'll get from other Catholics these days is a guilt trip and maybe a threat of hellfire (which falls flat if you have stopped believing in that concept).