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Post by discoprincess on Jul 7, 2017 12:33:02 GMT -4
I'm a little proud of myself that I don't know who Tokyo Toni is. Are they a man, woman? Rapper? Stripper? Wrestler? Who knows?! Tokyo Toni is Black Chyna's (real name Angela White) mother. She has quite a colorful personality, to say the least. This contains some details on her. This whole thing would be mildly entertaining if there were children involved. She has a few, right? Just the one with Rob but one or more from other baby daddies? Black Chyna has a child with former fiance, Tyga, the rapper. While Blac Chyna was hanging around with Kim, Tyga was hanging with Kim's little sister Kylie. Not only did Tyga allegedly leave Blac Chyna for Kylie, but Kylie was allegedly underage when she and Tyga got together. Around this time, Kylie's appearance also started to change (and not just due to puberty either). She and Blac Chyna also used to fire shots back and forth at each other on Twitter, although at some point they apparently drew up a truce. |
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Post by mrspickles on Jul 7, 2017 13:44:08 GMT -4
This would be interesting legally, someone posts revenge porn, the victim didn't grant permission, but posts their own porn after. So, is the revenge porn then a crime? I think so, but I am not any kind of lawyer. I wish it wasn't more attention for these losers, but I'd hate for more decent people to be the test cases. And they're all ridiculous enough to be doing this stuff. I don't watch any of the ripped from the headlines shows, so if they explore this I'll miss it. I've barely been paying attention to this shit, but is what BC posted "porn?" I saw a pic of her with her arms covering her breasts, so nothing was exposed. I didn't see, but read, that Rob posted explicit naked photos of her lower body. So I'm not sure why these two things are being considered equal. My original question came from wondering about the advice a lawyer would give a client who is to be considered the victim. You know how they always suggest that the women dress modestly, dye their hair brown and suddenly start wearing glasses? I'm pretty sure that advice doesn't include 'sell some more pics of you with another man- make sure that if you aren't really naked, that it looks like you are!' But I just looked at today's DM Blac Chyna article, though, and the caption today says that the partner is the one who posted the second photo, not Chyna herself. Since down is up with this crowd, I really don't know what's going on, and I don't think the photos themselves are an apples to apples issue. If I'm remembering correctly, there were multiple photos posted along with this one, and some of them were a little more risque than the one you're talking about, but nothing like what Rob posted. I don't think anybody is suggesting that Rob did nothing wrong, just sort of commenting that it doesn't seem to be really bothering her all that much. I was mainly thinking about clients that WILL NOT follow advice. I'm not a lawyer but I have clients like that and they make me crazy. In my head I was picturing the Jodi Arias makeover. Before. After. |
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Post by Witchie on Jul 7, 2017 16:24:21 GMT -4
It's revenge porn plain & simple. Doesn't matter if she's a stripper or not. Doesn't matter if she like the posts. He had no right to post nudes of her. He did it to humiliate & shame her. It's not the first time he's used his ex's sexuality and personal business against her. Rita Ora, Adrienne Ballon, and another woman have all been doxxed and harassed by this POS when they chose to leave him. I hope Lisa Bloom takes him to the cleaners.
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Post by scarlet on Jul 7, 2017 16:27:23 GMT -4
I've barely been paying attention to this shit, but is what BC posted "porn?" I saw a pic of her with her arms covering her breasts, so nothing was exposed. I didn't see, but read, that Rob posted explicit naked photos of her lower body. So I'm not sure why these two things are being considered equal. My original question came from wondering about the advice a lawyer would give a client who is to be considered the victim. You know how they always suggest that the women dress modestly, dye their hair brown and suddenly start wearing glasses? I'm pretty sure that advice doesn't include 'sell some more pics of you with another man- make sure that if you aren't really naked, that it looks like you are!' But I just looked at today's DM Blac Chyna article, though, and the caption today says that the partner is the one who posted the second photo, not Chyna herself. Since down is up with this crowd, I really don't know what's going on, and I don't think the photos themselves are an apples to apples issue. If I'm remembering correctly, there were multiple photos posted along with this one, and some of them were a little more risque than the one you're talking about, but nothing like what Rob posted. I don't think anybody is suggesting that Rob did nothing wrong, just sort of commenting that it doesn't seem to be really bothering her all that much. I was mainly thinking about clients that WILL NOT follow advice. I'm not a lawyer but I have clients like that and they make me crazy. In my head I was picturing the Jodi Arias makeover. Before. After.Why are we likening BC to a woman who murdered her boyfriend? I'm not understanding this comparison at all. Blac Chyna doesn't have to act like a victim because it doesn't matter what she does, as what Rob did is flat out revenge porn posted without her knowledge or consent. |
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Post by petitesuite on Jul 7, 2017 17:40:14 GMT -4
My original question came from wondering about the advice a lawyer would give a client who is to be considered the victim. You know how they always suggest that the women dress modestly, dye their hair brown and suddenly start wearing glasses? I'm pretty sure that advice doesn't include 'sell some more pics of you with another man- make sure that if you aren't really naked, that it looks like you are!' But I just looked at today's DM Blac Chyna article, though, and the caption today says that the partner is the one who posted the second photo, not Chyna herself. Since down is up with this crowd, I really don't know what's going on, and I don't think the photos themselves are an apples to apples issue. If I'm remembering correctly, there were multiple photos posted along with this one, and some of them were a little more risque than the one you're talking about, but nothing like what Rob posted. I don't think anybody is suggesting that Rob did nothing wrong, just sort of commenting that it doesn't seem to be really bothering her all that much. I was mainly thinking about clients that WILL NOT follow advice. I'm not a lawyer but I have clients like that and they make me crazy. In my head I was picturing the Jodi Arias makeover. Before. After.Why are we likening BC to a woman who murdered her boyfriend? I'm not understanding this comparison at all. Blac Chyna doesn't have to act like a victim because it doesn't matter what she does, as what Rob did is flat out revenge porn posted without her knowledge or consent. And in turn, I'm not sure I understand what post you read  I don't want to put words in mrspickles' mouth, but I think the comparison was just that frequently women who look overtly sexy are advised by their lawyers to look less so if they have to be in court. I imagine Blac Chyna (WHAT A STUPID NAME) would be advised to undergo an Aras-like makeover, not because she is similar to someone who murdered her boyfriend but because people (including jurors) are judgmental shitheels and she is more likely to gain sympathy if she looks demure. It is gross and I wouldn't fault her for not doing it, I just don't think it is outside the realm of possibility. The Washington Post article I read about this (yes, yes, I know) said that part of the relevant statute says something about causing the victim "severe emotional distress." I didn't factcheck the article, but unfortunately I think her 'liking' the photo would really count against her if that is the case. |
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Post by scarletprincess on Jul 7, 2017 18:19:15 GMT -4
While I agree that Rob was an a$$hat and shouldn't have posted this photos on social media, what kind of person texts photos of herself in bed with another man in the first man's bed, etc.? She's an a$$hat too, though not as much of one as Rob. All I can say is Team Dream. That poor child.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 18:21:58 GMT -4
It really is such a shame for the poor baby. WHY do people bring children into these unholy messes??
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Post by Ginger on Jul 7, 2017 18:30:01 GMT -4
While I agree that Rob was an a$$hat and shouldn't have posted this photos on social media, what kind of person texts photos of herself in bed with another man in the first man's bed, etc.? She's an a$$hat too, though not as much of one as Rob. All I can say is Team Dream. That poor child. Rob committed a sex crime against another person so that makes him much more than an asshat, that puts him in an entirely different category. It makes whatever she's done irrelevant, which is why people are doing a (surprisingly) good job of keeping the conversation away from that. But yes, she's pretty terrible. Evidence Exhibit A: She's involved with Rob Kardashian. |
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Post by Auroranorth on Jul 7, 2017 18:52:39 GMT -4
I think I'm Team No Revenge Porn and also Team That Poor Child, I Hope There's Someone Sane In Her Life.
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Post by mrspickles on Jul 7, 2017 20:37:10 GMT -4
My original question came from wondering about the advice a lawyer would give a client who is to be considered the victim. You know how they always suggest that the women dress modestly, dye their hair brown and suddenly start wearing glasses? I'm pretty sure that advice doesn't include 'sell some more pics of you with another man- make sure that if you aren't really naked, that it looks like you are!' But I just looked at today's DM Blac Chyna article, though, and the caption today says that the partner is the one who posted the second photo, not Chyna herself. Since down is up with this crowd, I really don't know what's going on, and I don't think the photos themselves are an apples to apples issue. If I'm remembering correctly, there were multiple photos posted along with this one, and some of them were a little more risque than the one you're talking about, but nothing like what Rob posted. I don't think anybody is suggesting that Rob did nothing wrong, just sort of commenting that it doesn't seem to be really bothering her all that much. I was mainly thinking about clients that WILL NOT follow advice. I'm not a lawyer but I have clients like that and they make me crazy. In my head I was picturing the Jodi Arias makeover. Before. After. Why are we likening BC to a woman who murdered her boyfriend? I'm not understanding this comparison at all. Blac Chyna doesn't have to act like a victim because it doesn't matter what she does, as what Rob did is flat out revenge porn posted without her knowledge or consent. Thanks petitesuite, that's pretty much what I was getting at. I was not intending to liken her to a murderer, I was making the point that was, I thought, pretty clearly stated in my first two sentences. I have also been, I believe, pretty clear in saying that what Rob did was wrong. Blac Chyna should be the only one who gets to decide how revealing or intimate she wants any photos of her that are made public to be. Her body, her likeness, her choice. I don't care how she dresses or what she does for a living. I also find it interesting that, based on today's DM article, she may not have been the one to release the recent set of photos. Interesting for a few reasons. First, as petitesuite pointed out, an element of a revenge porn charge may be that she has to prove harm of some sort. Liking photos and not raising a legal challenge to someone else posting explicit (although significantly less explicit) photos could make it harder for her to prove harm in court and could possibly even lead to a malicious prosecution charge against her. AND if the second batch was published without her consent she might have a better shot at proving harm against the second guy than she does against Rob, if their release does have a negative impact on her revenge porn case. |
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I don't want to put words in mrspickles' mouth, but I think the comparison was just that frequently women who look overtly sexy are advised by their lawyers to look less so if they have to be in court. I imagine Blac Chyna (WHAT A STUPID NAME) would be advised to undergo an Aras-like makeover, not because she is similar to someone who murdered her boyfriend but because people (including jurors) are judgmental shitheels and she is more likely to gain sympathy if she looks demure. It is gross and I wouldn't fault her for not doing it, I just don't think it is outside the realm of possibility. 
