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Post by seat6 on Apr 5, 2022 0:36:13 GMT -4
Is the Falklands War really something Andrew wants to be bringing up? What is the attitude of the British public towards that conflict? I don’t know that much about it.
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Post by gremlin45 on Apr 5, 2022 5:46:12 GMT -4
Is the Falklands War really something Andrew wants to be bringing up? What is the attitude of the British public towards that conflict? I don’t know that much about it. IIRC, Argentina invaded the Falklands and claimed them as Argentinian, despite everyone there viewing themselves as British. Britain went to war to defend the Falklands and won. It was 40 years ago, so most of us don't think about it. Except when Andrew points out he was there. I'd love to know what those who fought there think every time he brings it up. |
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Post by americanchai on Apr 5, 2022 8:29:43 GMT -4
I imagine he is very generous (with other people's money) to his ex-wife, the equally morally bankrupt and spendthrift Fergie, and his daughters (needs to keep their loyalty). I also suspect he probably has to pay people off on a regular basis to not spill all of his tea. I'll bet the things that are out there in public are only the tip of the iceberg with him.
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Post by mementomori on Apr 5, 2022 9:48:19 GMT -4
I imagine he is very generous (with other people's money) to his ex-wife, the equally morally bankrupt and spendthrift Fergie, and his daughters (needs to keep their loyalty). I also suspect he probably has to pay people off on a regular basis to not spill all of his tea. I'll bet the things that are out there in public are only the tip of the iceberg with him. I’m sure at the end of each week his pockets are as empty as George Jetson’s. Then Mummy comes and gives him allowance. I saw his name at the top of the page and thought he was suffering further consequences. Sadly he’ll continue to enjoy his hollow life. |
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Post by Ladybug on Apr 5, 2022 10:16:19 GMT -4
He is clearly not going to go away quietly. He's doing whatever he can to get back into public life while mummy is still around. I don't know how Charles is going to handle him.
I am curious if Andrew understands just how much the public hates him. No one in Britain or beyond is missing him or thinks he has anything to offer the public. He seems to be in denial of that fact, or just doesn't care. He's entitled to a luxurious public life as a prince because he's royalty, damnit!
I fully believe that Andrew doesn't remember or recognize his crimes against Virginia Guiffre as rape. He believes he is 100% innocent and he's been able to convince his mother of the same thing. All of this scandal is an attack against HIM. He thinks of himself as the victim in all of this, I have no doubt. That's why he will continue making these comeback attempts.
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Post by tiggertoo on Apr 5, 2022 10:21:48 GMT -4
He is seriously out of touch. But remember he reportedly felt that the interview he gave went really well. He must exist in some super privileged bubble.
And he was extremely popular when he was younger.
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Post by Auroranorth on Apr 5, 2022 10:53:07 GMT -4
Yes, back in the late seventies/early eighties, Andrew was the handsome, war hero prince who dated glamorous ladies, and then married Sarah in a big fancy wedding and appeared to be very much in love.
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Post by Ladybug on Apr 5, 2022 10:55:00 GMT -4
Yes, back in the late seventies/early eighties, Andrew was the handsome, war hero prince who dated glamorous ladies, and then married Sarah in a big fancy wedding and appeared to be very much in love. He seems to still live in that headspace. The world has moved on and after all the sordid details of his friendship with Epstein came out, he doesn't get that people find him gross. |
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Post by Ridha on Apr 5, 2022 12:17:50 GMT -4
I fully believe that Andrew doesn't remember or recognize his crimes against Virginia Guiffre as rape. He believes he is 100% innocent and he's been able to convince his mother of the same thing. All of this scandal is an attack against HIM. He thinks of himself as the victim in all of this, I have no doubt. That's why he will continue making these comeback attempts. Disclaimer to the following. I dislike Andrew. However, legally, and arguably even ethically, it WASN’T rape. She was above the legal age so no statutory claim. By her own admission she *acted* consensual and up for it. The illegal and immoral dynamics within her dealings with Epstein and Maxwell were something that, by Guiffre’s own account, Andrew was not privy to. Andrew is a skeevy pig for having affairs/one night stands let alone with such young partners. But VG got her settlement payout because she was counting on the fact that the BRF would want to avoid the embarrassment of a trial. Not because there was a legal claim there. |
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Post by Ladybug on Apr 5, 2022 13:06:34 GMT -4
Your points are correct. There is definitely a gray area that Andrew has exploited to his advantage, but ultimately VG was a trafficked woman and was expected to sleep with the men Epstein and Maxwell told her too. A person with a shred of decency who finds out that an encounter was not as consensual as they thought it was would probably regret it and feel awful. Every step of the way, Andrew has refused to take any accountability until ultimately he admitted in his statement that VG was the victim of abuse.
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