mementomori
Landed Gentry
Leaning Into Impermanence
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Feb 3, 2013 0:34:44 GMT -4
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Post by mementomori on Jan 3, 2014 14:43:08 GMT -4
Witchie,Mutagen you both made great points. Above all else Caitlin Moran was being an asshole and put the work into the most unflattering context and the author didn't deserve that.
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Sept 29, 2024 5:24:33 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 14:47:12 GMT -4
I'm not personally into fanfic but I have nothing against people who enjoy it or write it. I still believe that if people put stuff on the internet they risk having it taken and used in ways it might not have been intended. If they feel they can be potentially embarrassed by what they write then they shouldn't put it on the internet. I think about what I write all the time. Not only here but in any social media. People take things apart and misconstrue comments to further their own point. I think we've all had that happen to us even on this forum. Its the price we pay for the freedom to post our opinions and views on the web - whether wrong or right. It does suck sometimes!
And for the record I think it was wrong too.
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Post by Augustus on Jan 3, 2014 17:24:40 GMT -4
From what I've read shortly after is that Moran didn't even prepare for the Q&A, and only had thought of a couple of questions in the cab on her way there, incl. her "brilliant" idea of them reading out loud some fanfic. The audience had much better questions, but unfortunately they didn't get the same amount of time as she did. Also according to some, a BBC producer shouted at her after the Q&A. All in all, everyone present agreed she sucked, and most likely will not get asked ever again for such events. The preview was great, the panel itself was fun, but Moran? Big fat fail.
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Post by angelaudie on Jan 3, 2014 17:42:58 GMT -4
Caitlin Moran has a major crush on BC and has interviewed him several times. She's also a fan of Sherlock and TPTB have given her scoops on the show before. I wonder if perhaps if she deluded herself into thinking she's BFFs with the Sherlock cast and producers and her professionalism went out the window as a result. I bet she's regretting it now if that's the case. She probably won't get anymore exclusives for some time.
I agree when you upload something online you take a risk of having it mocked in some way. Still, it was a jerk move on Caitlin Moran's part. I believe she's admitted to writing fanfic when she was a teen which her actions all the more perplexing.
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Post by Auroranorth on Jan 3, 2014 17:54:56 GMT -4
I agree with you on this. I used to hang out at Godawful Fiction, which had some really, really horrible stuff on there being sporked. If it was public, it was fair game. But you didn't send links to the authors- that wasn't kosher.
I don't believe the author was embarrassed, from what I've read. But she was distressed to find that someone had edited her work and then given it to the actors to read. She was upset because she is a fan who likes and respects the show and the actors. The actors were put in an uncomfortable situation using her fic. That would bother me too.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 3, 2014 22:19:43 GMT -4
From what I've read shortly after is that Moran didn't even prepare for the Q&A, and only had thought of a couple of questions in the cab on her way there, incl. her "brilliant" idea of them reading out loud some fanfic. The audience had much better questions, but unfortunately they didn't get the same amount of time as she did. Also according to some, a BBC producer shouted at her after the Q&A. All in all, everyone present agreed she sucked, and most likely will not get asked ever again for such events. The preview was great, the panel itself was fun, but Moran? Big fat fail. Yeah, from what I understand, Moran biffed this from start to finish. She had shitty questions and not very many of them, she barely talked about the episode, and when she did, she spent her time pointing out errors (like one shot where you can see the fans who showed up to watch filming in the background) and then handed the actors erotic fan fiction to read in what was clearly an effort to mock it and put them in an embarrassing situation. And yeah, she got her ass chewed for it. I'm not into fan fiction and I don't care if people feel the need to mock it online, but don't put the show's cast members in a position where they have to help you mock it (even if that is not the intention). Dick move. But at least Moran reached out to the author (from what I understand) and personally apologized to her. And really, this "Oooooooh! Have you read the naughty stories they write about your characters or seen the fan art?!" is totally played out. It happens every time BC or MF are on a talk show. Find something new, folks.
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Post by petitesuite on Jan 3, 2014 23:24:33 GMT -4
I'm not personally into fanfic but I have nothing against people who enjoy it or write it. I still believe that if people put stuff on the internet they risk having it taken and used in ways it might not have been attended. If they feel they can be potentially embarrassed by what they write then they shouldn't put it on the internet. I think about what I write all the time. Not only here but in any social media. People take things apart and misconstrue comments to further their own point. I think we've all had that happen to us even on this forum. Its the price we pay for the freedom to post our opinions and views on the web - whether wrong or right. It does suck sometimes! And for the record I think it was wrong too. I agree with all of this, and especially that it's possible to say that the author (and, indeed, everyone) should realize anything on the internet is public while also acknowledging that Moran was unprofessional at best. I think communities on the internet can really lull people into a false sense of security, but it is ALL out there for anyone with enough spare time to find.
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tszuj
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Dec 29, 2005 17:36:46 GMT -4
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Post by tszuj on Jan 3, 2014 23:31:10 GMT -4
I like Caitlin Moran a lot but the talk was just cringeworthy. In addition to what's been discussed here, she ignored the only woman on the panel (the show's exec producer and one of the most powerful women in the industry), heavily implied Martin Freeman's actress partner only landed a role in the show because she's sleeping with one of the leads and wrongly referred to her as his wife, and asked whether they disrupted filming by having "domestics" on set. And his partner was in the audience.
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Post by MrsCatHead on Jan 4, 2014 2:49:53 GMT -4
I'm dying to see the new episode!!!
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Post by Martini Girl on Jan 4, 2014 20:42:59 GMT -4
I like Caitlin Moran a lot but the talk was just cringeworthy. In addition to what's been discussed here, she ignored the only woman on the panel (the show's exec producer and one of the most powerful women in the industry), heavily implied Martin Freeman's actress partner only landed a role in the show because she's sleeping with one of the leads and wrongly referred to her as his wife, and asked whether they disrupted filming by having "domestics" on set. And his partner was in the audience. This is what bothered me about the whole debacle. I heard that the Q&A wasn't allowed to focus specifically on the episode (for spoiler content), so it made the Q&A a little bit harder. I felt for everyone involved on the panel. New episode airs TOMORROW! (1pm PST). I'll be streaming.
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