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Post by Babycakes on Aug 26, 2016 23:50:31 GMT -4
I want to see it. I know the basics of Nate Parker's troubling past, but I'm not going to hold it against the movie. Whether he received a true measure of justice, he as admitted to what he did, and apologized sincerely, IMO. He has not run from, nor denied his past. I guess I'm at the point where I'm wondering what more can he do (or any other person) to move on. What absolves some criminals, and not others. I know sex crimes are a whole other ball of wax, and his victim committed suicide, so it feels like he gets to flourish, while her life was ruined. However, should what one does at 19, be used to judge them for the rest of their life? Nate Parker is nearly 40 years old, and apparently never offended again. Maybe this isn't the right thread for this topic, but do some crimes come with a proverbial death sentence? That's not to even begin to touch on the race issues involved in this controversy. Hollywood if full of rapists, molesters, violent abusers, drunk drivers, junkies, and assholes, but there seems to be almost an organized attempt to take down Nate Parker. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel sorry for him, or hate his critics. This backlash just feels inorganic and over the top, compared to some of the people that are allowed to thrive in Hollywood. Anyhoo... trailer. Looks powerful. And Nat Turner's story is American history that everyone should know. |
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Post by Ginger on Aug 27, 2016 10:24:34 GMT -4
Whether he received a true measure of justice, he as admitted to what he did, and apologized sincerely, IMO. He has not run from, nor denied his past. I think you need to read more about the case because I don't believe he has in any way admitted what he did. He says the sex was consensual, and he plead innocent and was acquitted. I don't think he admitted to stalking and harassing the victim afterward either. IMO he hasn't faced up to the crime at all. In an attempt to "get ahead of the story" he gave an interview where he portrayed himself as remorseful in a very vague way and emphasized that he is a family man. I don't consider giving interviews a way of atoning for crimes. |
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Post by chonies on Aug 27, 2016 11:34:53 GMT -4
Generally speaking, atonement and the possibilities of redemption are something I think about quite a bit. I've read the vague interview, the transcript of the phone call, and some of the facts of the case, and I do think that a lot of the problems with Parker apart from the movie are warranted, and I also agree that he seems to be taking the collective heat for every other celebrity who has a past with criminal or moral problems.
This movie looks amazing. And yet.
ETA: Related, I can't think of any other case that is similar enough to this. There seems to be something unique about the set of circumstances.
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Post by Atreides on Aug 28, 2016 16:14:27 GMT -4
I do want to see the movie too; it looks very powerful.
It is fascinating to see how Fox and Nate Turner are furiously spinning this to keep their Oscar chances alive though. Their PR people must be working 24/7 to keep on top of things.
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Post by bklynred on Sept 13, 2016 12:58:16 GMT -4
I may wait for this on-demand. I don't want to take away from the message or other actors, but I don't see myself spending $20 for Nate Parker. He's too problematic.
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Post by americanchai on Sept 15, 2016 10:14:20 GMT -4
After reading all of the above, I had to look this up because I didn't realize it wasn't a remake of the D.W. Griffith film. Now I want to see it. I know nothing about Nate Parker, or Nat Turner. Maybe that's for the best?
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Post by canuckcutie on Sept 17, 2016 8:20:12 GMT -4
The fact that he and his co-accused wrote & directed a rape scene in the movie boggles the mind. They didn't think or care that perhaps that would only inflame things further? Talk about clueless.
Nothing I've read or seen to date indicates he's remorseful. The interview where he kept mentioning his daughters was cringe worthy. In Toronto at TIFF he kept deflecting questions regarding his past and saying he didn't want to distract from the movie. Well when you write, direct and star in a movie YOU are the face of the movie.
Some of the critics who saw it at TIFF weren't widely enamoured of the movie so I figure if it's not getting rave reviews across the board then once you add the rape into the mix the movie is likely going to get overlooked come awards season.
I don't give Polanski or Allan my dollars at the box office. I certainly won't be lining this guy's pockets either.
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Post by Coffeecakes on Sept 17, 2016 23:30:41 GMT -4
I don't understand justifying this asshole because Woody Allen and Roman Polanski have careers. Doesn't take away from the fact that all 3 are disgusting rapists, pedos. One just doesn't have the luck of benefitting from white privilege. He is still a rapist. So fuck him, I will illegally stream this movie.
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Post by americanchai on Sept 22, 2016 11:07:14 GMT -4
OK, I went back and looked up Nate Parker - ew. F*** this guy. His harassment of the accuser is just as bad if not worse than what she may have gone through. It's hard to cry not guilty when you're going to continue to attack the alleged victim. A**hole. Nope, won't watch it. It could be the greatest film since Citizen Kane. Won't even stream it.
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Post by magazinewhore on Oct 4, 2016 14:13:06 GMT -4
I am of two minds about this movie and am fascinated by the discussion going on around it.
I'm trying to check my privilege all around, but I have to admit I rolled my eyes during the 60 Minutes interview. Why is it so hard to understand that people can be oppressed and oppressors?
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