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Post by americanchai on Sept 6, 2024 11:34:17 GMT -4
Seriously. Harry is the one who put stuff in print - nasty stuff. Mean-spirited stuff. Stuff you should keep to yourself. William can't change or apologize for his birth order. Harry and Meghan can never be #1 on this call sheet. At this point, Harry is #5, I mean they don't even really need him. There is zero incentive to them letting him back, unless it's Charles's wish, but seriously, he and Camilla have both also been insulted by Harry as well. There is also no public outcry for the royals to demand Harry and family back. The Daily Fail's columnists can't even agree that they should come back/would be welcome back.
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Post by featherhat on Sept 6, 2024 17:48:23 GMT -4
Seriously. Harry is the one who put stuff in print - nasty stuff. Mean-spirited stuff. Stuff you should keep to yourself. William can't change or apologize for his birth order. Harry and Meghan can never be #1 on this call sheet. At this point, Harry is #5, I mean they don't even really need him. There is zero incentive to them letting him back, unless it's Charles's wish, but seriously, he and Camilla have both also been insulted by Harry as well. There is also no public outcry for the royals to demand Harry and family back. The Daily Fail's columnists can't even agree that they should come back/would be welcome back. I'll always remember the tantrum Richard Kay spewed as both of the princes after is reconciliation fanfiction at Prince Philip's funeral got shot to bits. The UK press are pretty starved of stuff for royals which seems hard to believe given all the changes over the last 5-3 years but of the royals currently in the UK most aren't doing anything more scandalous than going to Chiltern Firehouse whilst also being parents. I think that is a big reasons why the UK press were determined to so jump on insane about Kate rumours despite KP never going over the deadline of Easter before anything else was announced. I don't believe Harry is happy. None of his actions since he left have said "I have everything I ever wanted." On the contrary instead of "likable, cheeky Chappy Prince Harry" his has shown himself to be the opposite. He is status obsessed even though at one one he wad named "world's most eligible batchelor" who literally does not vote in the UK because he is TOO PRIVILEGED and can call up the PM any time he wants whine about how he's only the 5th most genealogical person in the country. He hasn't let go of that and neither has Meghan because she insists of being called DOS in everything. Harry once talked about wanting to be a firefighter post army but it wasn't allowed. William work for an Air Ambulance. If he was truly interested surely something could have been arranged. The Army bent over backwards to keep him but no. He decided to become a fulltime royal at least 10 years earlier than would have been expected at that point. He did a lot of what he wanted to do then and got accolades for 4 engagements a month. Now I do think he's somewhat stuck on "why isn't everything going my way" and "why don't many people like me any more" and that is the route of a lot of articles and lawsuits.
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Post by Auroranorth on Sept 7, 2024 22:39:21 GMT -4
I don't believe Harry is happy. None of his actions since he left have said "I have everything I ever wanted." On the contrary instead of "likable, cheeky Chappy Prince Harry" his has shown himself to be the opposite. He is status obsessed even though at one one he was named "world's most eligible bachelor" who literally does not vote in the UK because he is TOO PRIVILEGED and can call up the PM any time he wants whine about how he's only the 5th most genealogical person in the country. He hasn't let go of that and neither has Meghan because she insists of being called DOS in everything. Harry once talked about wanting to be a firefighter post army but it wasn't allowed. William work for an Air Ambulance. If he was truly interested surely something could have been arranged. The Army bent over backwards to keep him but no. He decided to become a fulltime royal at least 10 years earlier than would have been expected at that point. He did a lot of what he wanted to do then and got accolades for 4 engagements a month. Now I do think he's somewhat stuck on "why isn't everything going my way" and "why don't many people like me any more" and that is the route of a lot of articles and lawsuits. Agreed. If Harry was genuinely happy he wouldn't have to keep telling us. He'd just be leading his own life without all the fuss. Every person who leaves the military has to figure out what they're going to do next. My dad was a kid who didn't have a direction, so he joined up (not in wartime) and after his service he decided to go to college and become a scientist, using the GI Bill. Unlike Harry, my dad didn't have a wealthy family to smooth his path and put him on Easy Street. Harry had plenty of options, and he chose the one he wanted. If he'd genuinely been serious about becoming a firefighter, I think it could have happened. ETA- My dad went and became a miner for a year or so, and that made him decide that he wanted to go to college instead. Luckily, he had the means to go via the GI Bill. If Harry had spent a year doing senior royal stuff and then gone off to be a firefighter because he realized that's what he wanted to do, I think he would have been lauded.
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Post by royalwave on Sept 9, 2024 9:31:47 GMT -4
Harry had plenty of options, and he chose the one he wanted. If he'd genuinely been serious about becoming a firefighter, I think it could have happened. I agree. When Meghan was about to become part of the family there were supposedly talks about allowing her and Harry more freedoms--such as the ability for her to continue an acting career, possibly living abroad, etc. Instead of seeing these discussions as an opportunity, the Sussex duo took them as an insult. They seemed to view this as a way for Charles to avoid paying the lavish sums they expected for them to be full time working royals. Perhaps they even took it to be racially motivated. I think what it really was, was an attempt to build some level of flexibility into the arrangements so that the couple would have the best chance at long-term happiness. Charles and William had to know that Harry had been somewhat unhappy and at loose ends for a while, and the royal family was always set to become a bit leaner anyway, so there was no reason why Harry and Meghan ever had to be full time working royals if they didn't want to be. I agree that the public would have totally accepted him pursuing other options, however, instead of going gracefully Harry & Meghan decided to use their grievances as kindling in an attempt to burn the house down. The fallout from all of that is totally on them.
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luckylexie
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Post by luckylexie on Sept 9, 2024 12:33:42 GMT -4
I peg their failure to launch on Meghan for the most part. She saw entering the royal family as a stepping stone to greater fame (which it was), but someone (ahem, Harry) didn’t remind her that they were always going to be one step behind William and Kate, especially once Charles became king. Also, she’s not interested in public service unless it does her any positive PR. Their act as faux activists/philanthropists has worn really thin over the years, and people in Hollywood can see right through it now. Meghan just wanted fame and Harry is too stupid to see he was taken for a ride.
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Post by tiggertoo on Sept 9, 2024 14:44:14 GMT -4
They seem like they took, and take, everything as an insult.
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Post by cancan on Sept 9, 2024 15:43:31 GMT -4
I am not going to link it, because I will never give Harry the clicks, but what a coincidence that as Catherine's video is released, they release 4 stills from his upcoming polo documentary.
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Post by tiggertoo on Sept 9, 2024 18:47:59 GMT -4
Yes, crazy, huh? Pure coincidence, I’m sure.
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Post by OnyxRose on Sept 9, 2024 21:56:57 GMT -4
At this point, people have to realize they’re doing this on purpose right? There was no need to tweet that today.
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luckylexie
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Post by luckylexie on Sept 10, 2024 18:00:08 GMT -4
At this point, people have to realize they’re doing this on purpose right? There was no need to tweet that today. Right? This genuinely baffles me. The Sussexes just look petty doing this. That they look to promote themselves when the BRF make big announcements or mark important events tells you everything you need to know about what really went on behind the scenes from 2018-2020.
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