Courtney Love

[Beyle]

I always thought that CLove and EN were an odd pair. He seems so much more uptight than she is, but maybe that's what she loved about him.

[envelopeofdoom]

Well, Kurt blew his head off and left his daughter alone. So, if Edward is still even marginally involved with Frances now, he's still done way more than Kurt. So I can see how Courtney would say that.

When I heard the news about Kurt my first thought was "how could he leave his baby daughter?" because my daughter is the same age as Frances. That was a selfish thing for him to do, but I hope that Frances isn't being taught that her dad left her and this other guy (whoever it may be) is better than him soley because of that. It would be more reassuring for her to think that her dad loved her, which I'm sure he did.

BTW, I've been a CL fan and apologizer for years, but that comment about Kurt really bugged me for some reason.

This comment is from way back:

Fuck, Grohl can play women in his videos and I still like the man. Love? She's got to have this 'image' so she can be a rocker. It's just sad.

I think the reason CL has to have an image has more to do with the fact that she's a woman and rock music is still very much a man's world than anything else.

[Mouse]

Thing is, at this point, CL isn't a musician anymore, whereas Grohl still is. Also, there are and have been plenty of women rock singers. CL used the "women in rock" shtick to get publicity. She was very much a minor figure in the rock world, more a socialite/celebrity than a musical performer. Sort of the Paris/LiLo/Nicole Ritchie of the 1990s.

[niddlemiddle]

I've never understood why she has the rights to Nirvana. However, the other band-mates, that were, you know, actually in the band... don't.
Seriously, I'm not a lawyer but that seems to be wrong and I don't know how she legally can.
Strange.

[Mouse]

Cobain left no will so when he died, the rights to his music reverted to his next of kin. Guess who that was? And yes, I believe that the two surviving members do have a say in how the music is used. Greedy Courtney wanted sole control of the Nirvana catalog, but that didn't pan out.

[envelopeofdoom]

When I was shopping the other day in Spencers I noticed a Kurt Cobain doll and some other ridiculous crass merchandise and was wondering if CL had something to do with that to make more money. No doubt if KC was in a grave he'd be rolling in it.

[niddlemiddle]

Hmmm, that explains it a bit.
Interesting, did the other band members contribute absolutely nothing? Honestly I, personally, never got the whole grunge thing.

[Ginger]

The others have rights to Nirvana, but their percentage is equivalent to their contribution. They played the music, but Kurt wrote most of it so he got the biggest share--something like 50% compared to their 25% each. When he died, his share went to his nearest heir, his widow. (Actually, I think it may have gone to Frances, but Courtney has control of it until Frances is 25.) It seems fair to me--when you die, your estate goes to your family, not your business associates. Should Elvis's empire have gone to his drummer when he died, instead of his daughter?

Courtney doesn't have total control, but with her 50% up against Dave and Krist's 50% percent, she can block any decision they make and create a stalemate. Legally, I think it's fair. It's just that the law does not have any provisions for Courtney Love being a complete asshole.

[Mouse]

Why would Frances have to wait until she's 25? Why not when she's 18?

I think it's ironic that Grohl has turned out to have a nice, productive career for himself as a bandleader and musician-for-hire whereas Courtney has become little more than an excuse to use column space.

[niddlemiddle]

ginger said:

Should Elvis's empire have gone to his drummer when he died, instead of his daughter?

Got it. Now, it makes sense.

mouse said:

Why would Frances have to wait until she's 25? Why not when she's 18?

This happens quite regularly when large amounts of money is involved.
Often, they recipient may get a chunk when they turn 18 but it's then divided up over the years. (i.e. some at 18, another installment when you hit 25 (there may even be a stipulation about getting a college degree), then the rest at 35)
It's a smart thing to do...
Can you imagine what little motivation an 18-year old would have if they just knew they would be inheriting a vast amount of money when they turned 18? Or, they could just blow it before they realize what they did.