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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 2:27:25 GMT -4
I love this video of her performing "Stronger than me". She's so damn good. Her voice is fab, but I can see how awkward and uncomfortable she is on stage: there's a real deer in the headlights look in her eyes. And at the same time she's obviously a great performer and totally sings her heart out... |
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Jul 27, 2011 17:17:21 GMT -4
I'm 40 and I've never been buzzed or tried even pot. I'm not going to start now or ever; that was a conscious choice I made about my life when I was 11. I was younger than that when I decided I was never going to smoke. I'm far from the only one; some people do know some of the things they will or won't do. "Anything can happen to anyone" is a fallacy.
Anyway.
I do too. It must have been torture for them to have to come to the place where they're writing eulogies years before her death and asking Amy where she wants to be buried/cremated. That's hardcore and that's a family that tried to do everything possible to help their daughter.
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Post by discoprincess on Jul 27, 2011 18:48:46 GMT -4
I do too. It must have been torture for them to have to come to the place where they're writing eulogies years before her death and asking Amy where she wants to be buried/cremated. That's hardcore and that's a family that tried to do everything possible to help their daughter. I had read somewhere that Amy's parents had given up on her; they must have been expecting "the call", as referenced in Russell Brand's piece. If they had given up hope, then I guess nothing else could have been done - aside from having her involuntarily committed. At least they seemed to care and tried to be actively involved in getting their daughter better as opposed to other celebrity parents (* cough*Dina Lohan* cough*). |
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Post by angelaudie on Jul 27, 2011 19:15:28 GMT -4
I've never tried pot or any other illegal substance either. I've only been buzzed once. Yet, I don't think these things mean I'm exempt from addiction. "Anything can happen to anyone" isn't a fallacy. It's the freaking truth. Unless you have a crystal ball or the ability to predict the future no one can say with 100% certainty they will never find themselves in the grips of addiction. For all I know I could get into a major car accident, be put on some heavy duty painkillers, and end up addicted to them. Now, I have no plans of getting into a car accident but it can happen. If I end having to take serious painkillers I have every intention in following doctor's orders and not taking more than prescribed. But what's to say I'll still be in pain even after taking the pain killers and rationalize taking a little bit more won't hurt me? Or that even I stick to the prescribed amount I still won't end up addicted because my body chemistry is different from other people's?
I'm not perfect. My father is an alcoholic and I've on plenty of occasions have become frustrated with him doing things like spending God knows how much on booze and then crying how he has no money if you ask him to pick up some milk. I've had thoughts like, "Funny how you always seem to have money for beer but not for things we actually need!" Even worse, he refuses to acknowledge his alcoholism, his PSTD, and his depression ("I'm not crazy! You are all crazy!") which makes things even more frustrating. I have to keep reminding myself that he has an illness and he did ask for or choose to have it.
I guess the point of my rambling post is nobody can say they will never ever become addicted to anything (remember drugs are not the only things you can become addicted to). All anybody can do is do their best to avoid addiction. But many, for whatever reason, will not be successful. That does not mean they are bad people though.
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Post by eclair on Jul 27, 2011 20:42:23 GMT -4
Sure, I could become addicted to pain killers following an accident, but I will not try recreational drugs or alcohol, I am pretty certain at age 44 that I will not become a drug addict or alcoholic. I can choose not to start. I don't think I would be able to stop once I started, but I chose not to start. If I did start, I don't know that I could get into rehab, how many times it would take, or if anything/anyone would get me off whatever I was addicted to. It would not be easy. So I make sure I don't start something I can't walk away from.
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Post by mariposalabrown on Jul 28, 2011 3:48:44 GMT -4
I have a crazy addiction problem, so I absolutely steer clear from hard drugs, I know I'd love them. You literally just can't stop yourself, no matter how people that can think you can. I feel bad that she didn't care enough about music when she was that good and got that kind of break, and chose drugs instead.
I know a horse riding lady who got addicted to painkillers at 65-66 finally from years of getting thrown off horses. Hated being a zombie, moved to medicinal marijuana. At least she's smiling now. It can really happen anytime, this woman was church going, straight as an arrow, all of a sudden addicted to Oxy.
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Post by bklynred on Jul 28, 2011 8:47:49 GMT -4
It does happen very fast, I hurt my back and within a few weeks I had problems getting off this hellish medication. Mind you, everyone in my family has a drug, alcohol or food addiction, but it didn't occur to me that gee, maybe you've got those genes too? It was surprising because I can handle alcohol very well, know my limits, never succumbed to peer pressure, etc. I was lucky to catch it fast.
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Post by Ginger on Jul 28, 2011 9:47:17 GMT -4
Amy's family thinks she died from alcohol withdrawal[/color]. Don't withdrawal problems happen in the first few days? Not a month later. I think her family is really clinging to the idea that she died happy. They seem to want to believe that she was getting sober at the time. I think it's far more likely she went on a drug bender and no longer had the tolerance for it she thought she had.
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Post by margojata on Jul 28, 2011 9:55:19 GMT -4
I thought her mother also said that Amy was "out of it" the last time she saw her?
Ah well, whatever helps you get through it all. I hope they're not too devastated (if it's possible to be more devastated) if the truth is ugly.
I really hope this dad doesn't try to capitalize on this for his career. In the last few days I've seen his crooner video a half dozen times. I barely knew a thing about him before.
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Jul 28, 2011 9:59:10 GMT -4
And the thing with Amy, unless some new report has come out that I've missed, she may well have been off the stuff at the time she died. They didn't find any drugs around her and so far didn't find anything in her system (nothing obvious yet). So she may have really REALLY been trying to get a grip on this evil addiction, but her body just gave out on her. (The extreme weight loss probably didn't help matters) She had a lot of resources available to her, and from all accounts she had a good relationship with her parents and friends (not counting Blake) so she had people who supported and loved her. And it wasn't enough.  I wasn't a huge fan but when she was at the top of her game I remember an awards show where she was performing via satelite. She therefore also got the news that she'd won the award via satelite and just looked so STUNNED and shaken and awed when that happened. I was never sure if she was faking, because with all the buzz surrounding her at that time, you'd think it would have to have been in the back of her mind that she COULD win that award. But it was like someone mentioned upthread, total deer in the headlights. So she had the acclaim and success, but she didn't seem to absorb that very well. I dated a guy who seemed to have everything going for him. He was good looking, had a great paying job and lots of friends and for a while he had me (heh). But emotionally he was a wreck. He beat himself up constantly over the stupidest things. Like one time we had a few friends over for a cookout and everyone had a great time... but after everyone went home he was sobbing because there was some steak left over and he'd bought too much. Really. I told him we'd have leftovers for the week, that we could freeze the steak and it would keep for a year. Nothing, nothing would make him feel better over it. (Really. Leftover steak!) He was a raging alcholic, but actually hid it pretty well (I didn't even notice for most of our relationship) I finally left him because he was turning that self loathing onto me and I didn't want to get pulled under. He did the rehab thing a couple times but nothing stuck. He wound up blowing his brains out a year and a half after we'd split. And at his funeral... I mean, it was standing room only. There were SOOO many people who loved him. He just didn't, couldn't love himself. And I guess it was kinda like that with Amy. She had so much going for her. Even though the tabloids could be harsh about her looks, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say her music sucked. It might not have been everyone's style or taste, but she was masterful and genius at what she did, esp. being so young. But she didn't ever seem to enjoy herself or the praise she got. She found "love" but she and her man spent their time beating the crap out of each other... maybe because they couldn't understand why they still weren't happy. Lots of friends have talked about how funny she could be, but that doesn't always mean she was having fun. Bless her heart, had she survived, she may have lived to be 88 and still had that self loathing churning through her veins. I think the fact that her parents loved her and stuck by her and STILL had funeral arrangements planned for their girl who wasn't even 30 is both chilling and telling. Most of us get broken down by life, but some of us are strong in the broken places. And sadly, the man who said that, Ernest Hemingway, still wasn't as strong as his own demons. I wouldn't get on my high horse and jugde Amy for not being able to pull her life together. But I also understand completely the folks who are fed up and angry with the poor choices she made in her life. It's awful to see anyone throw away the life they are given, harsh as they may find it, esp. someone who is given a life full of talent and success. The best that can be said of Amy and her short time on earth was while she lived with some pretty heinous demons, at least she channeled that negative energy into something productive. She didn't go blow something up or shoot people down. She made music and left something beautiful behind. I think that's the best any of us can do. Try to leave something beautiful behind. |
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