Post by Auroranorth on Oct 3, 2006 9:20:38 GMT -4
Like I said, commando raid. We can take the Crown Prince too. The Emperor and Empress if we can, but save Masako and Aiko first!
But I can't help it. The idealistic side of me thinks it would be a bloody shame for 2 and a half millenium worth of history to be tossed to the side, for all this to mean nothing, and --- really, the main thing --- for there to be no actual fairness or justice in Masako's life. This isn't like the endless debate about Diana and when she had her lovers, or how she may have possibly been justified in doing things. If one's life is going to be scrapped on the dunghill of history, then at least it should be because someone actually *did* something.
With Masako, that's not the case. But, aren't you really right when it comes down to it: shouldn't she be set free to live life without this hellish prison system?
I know you're probably more logically realistic, but it just bothers me that these people should be able to get away with things, such that --- if 2,500+ years of history should be tossed aside, it should be done on the most unfair of reasons --- and for the most ridiculously, unreasonable, irrational, non-common-sense of theories.
It just seems like such an incredibly bloody waste.
But you're right. The most humane, caring and altruistic feeling would want the whole system to go down, and for Masako and Aiko to be happy.
But that just seems like injustice and cruelty (A.K.A. the "IHA") winning, and ... and..... and...... I can't handle the IHA winning every battle, as they always do. I know I sound like a little girl stomping her feet and wanting Superman to save the little kitten in the tree, but dammit, I'm holding out for justice. These people destroyed Empress Nagako and turned her into the Dragon Lady; they beat down CP and then-Empress Michiko until she stopped talking for days, weeks and months on end; and then they battered down Masako, until her whole body broke down on her and she almost lost her mind.
For these people to be put aside, may be the most altruistic, fair outcome, but ..... but...... that means there is no justice in the world, that the bigoted, mysognystic hateful racists end up winning, that no-one pays a price for their awful behavior, that there is no Karma, and that the way to win is just to wait until the evil people get redlined as irrelevent.
I'm sorry, this is probably no way as serious as my comments make it seem but, in some ways, it is. You're right that they should all be free of things, but it just bothers me that a govt. can destroy, manipulate or control so many innocent lives on the basis of things outside of their control, or for the most medieval of reasons. I can't get upset about the thousand of nameless dead in the Middle East who die for something similar, but I can relate more to Masako's much more superificial situtation and the injustice of people getting away with things.
I know that's hardly what you meant, but I just get so frustrated. When is escape and freedom just a cop-out, or a question of injustice being compensated?
Kafka, I'm in agreement with you on this. It does suck that a commando raid and stashing Masako and Aiko somewhere looks like the best option, or that the downfall of of a 2,000 year old monarchy could happen for such... petty reasons as the IHA.
Has anyone here read John Buchan's The Three Hostages? There's a very interesting discussion between Richard Hannay and Sandy Clanroyden about the difference between success and victory. Clanroyden says something to the effect of "A wise man once said that if you could achieve success you shouldn't push for victory." In this case, I'd see success would be freeing Masako to have a happy life and Aiko to fulfill her potential as a person. Victory would be Masako being able to use her education and abilities for the good of Japan as both Crown Princess and Empress, with Aiko having the chance to become Empress in her own right and do what she was born to do, with the IHA massively pruned back or eliminated altogether. I'd love to go for victory, but I'd settle for success here.
kafka said:
But I can't help it. The idealistic side of me thinks it would be a bloody shame for 2 and a half millenium worth of history to be tossed to the side, for all this to mean nothing, and --- really, the main thing --- for there to be no actual fairness or justice in Masako's life. This isn't like the endless debate about Diana and when she had her lovers, or how she may have possibly been justified in doing things. If one's life is going to be scrapped on the dunghill of history, then at least it should be because someone actually *did* something.
With Masako, that's not the case. But, aren't you really right when it comes down to it: shouldn't she be set free to live life without this hellish prison system?
I know you're probably more logically realistic, but it just bothers me that these people should be able to get away with things, such that --- if 2,500+ years of history should be tossed aside, it should be done on the most unfair of reasons --- and for the most ridiculously, unreasonable, irrational, non-common-sense of theories.
It just seems like such an incredibly bloody waste.
But you're right. The most humane, caring and altruistic feeling would want the whole system to go down, and for Masako and Aiko to be happy.
But that just seems like injustice and cruelty (A.K.A. the "IHA") winning, and ... and..... and...... I can't handle the IHA winning every battle, as they always do. I know I sound like a little girl stomping her feet and wanting Superman to save the little kitten in the tree, but dammit, I'm holding out for justice. These people destroyed Empress Nagako and turned her into the Dragon Lady; they beat down CP and then-Empress Michiko until she stopped talking for days, weeks and months on end; and then they battered down Masako, until her whole body broke down on her and she almost lost her mind.
For these people to be put aside, may be the most altruistic, fair outcome, but ..... but...... that means there is no justice in the world, that the bigoted, mysognystic hateful racists end up winning, that no-one pays a price for their awful behavior, that there is no Karma, and that the way to win is just to wait until the evil people get redlined as irrelevent.
I'm sorry, this is probably no way as serious as my comments make it seem but, in some ways, it is. You're right that they should all be free of things, but it just bothers me that a govt. can destroy, manipulate or control so many innocent lives on the basis of things outside of their control, or for the most medieval of reasons. I can't get upset about the thousand of nameless dead in the Middle East who die for something similar, but I can relate more to Masako's much more superificial situtation and the injustice of people getting away with things.
I know that's hardly what you meant, but I just get so frustrated. When is escape and freedom just a cop-out, or a question of injustice being compensated?
Kafka, I'm in agreement with you on this. It does suck that a commando raid and stashing Masako and Aiko somewhere looks like the best option, or that the downfall of of a 2,000 year old monarchy could happen for such... petty reasons as the IHA.
Has anyone here read John Buchan's The Three Hostages? There's a very interesting discussion between Richard Hannay and Sandy Clanroyden about the difference between success and victory. Clanroyden says something to the effect of "A wise man once said that if you could achieve success you shouldn't push for victory." In this case, I'd see success would be freeing Masako to have a happy life and Aiko to fulfill her potential as a person. Victory would be Masako being able to use her education and abilities for the good of Japan as both Crown Princess and Empress, with Aiko having the chance to become Empress in her own right and do what she was born to do, with the IHA massively pruned back or eliminated altogether. I'd love to go for victory, but I'd settle for success here.