xenna
Lady in Waiting
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Feb 22, 2006 22:34:04 GMT -4
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Post by xenna on Nov 25, 2014 4:50:59 GMT -4
I'm convinced Gabriel sprayed Nahla with some Sun-In and then used a flat iron on her hair because he knew it would drive Halle crazy (too late for that!)
But I'm not surprised they ended up back in court over Nahla's hair. I recently read a book by Delia Ephron that was written nearly 30 years ago in which she describes her divorced female friends losing their minds when their daughters got haircuts while in their father's custody. In the book it was presented as the women feeling like the ex was doing it to them (cutting their hair) and not their daughters. Three decades later and the sentiment is still the same.
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Nov 25, 2014 8:32:39 GMT -4
Nahla is going to be one fucked up kid by the time her parents are done with each other.
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Post by chonies on Nov 25, 2014 9:19:32 GMT -4
If Gabriel has made racial slurs, then that's unacceptable. However...this is coming from Halle, who is crazy as hell, so I'm not prepared to accept it as the truth. Anyway, even though I know Halle has said in the past that she considers Nahla to be "black", she's not. She's a quarter black and three quarters white, and her father has fairly light hair. It's not surprising to me that her hair might turn a bit blonde in the middle of the summer in California. To me, this is perhaps one of the more reasonable things Halle has said. It's true that going strictly by ancestry, Nahla might be 3/4 white, but in US culture, she still presents as ambiguously ethnic or otherwise non-white. More importantly, she has a black parent (who is biracial but often identifies as black) and anyway, I believe it's up to Nahla to define herself and her identity as she chooses. But otherwise, yeah--Gabriel has very light hair, Halle's mother is very fair. Mathematically, Nahla is statistically likely to have several light hair genes. I think the chunk of blond hair looks like she spent a lot of one summer in a chlorinated swimming pool. I don't think Gabriel is a saint, but the article presents Halle's accusation as something that might have happened and for which there were no witnesses. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, once or repeatedly, but right now I'm classifying it as tabloid fodder. If he did it, that's truly terrible.
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Post by Auroranorth on Nov 25, 2014 10:23:09 GMT -4
If Gabriel has made racial slurs, then that's unacceptable. However...this is coming from Halle, who is crazy as hell, so I'm not prepared to accept it as the truth. Yes, I have my doubts about Halle as a reliable witness in this.
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Post by Neurochick on Nov 25, 2014 11:15:13 GMT -4
If Gabriel has made racial slurs, then that's unacceptable. However...this is coming from Halle, who is crazy as hell, so I'm not prepared to accept it as the truth. Anyway, even though I know Halle has said in the past that she considers Nahla to be "black", she's not. She's a quarter black and three quarters white, and her father has fairly light hair. It's not surprising to me that her hair might turn a bit blonde in the middle of the summer in California. I have to disagree with this. It's up to Nahla to decide how she will identify herself. Most people I know with one black or mixed parent, and one white parent call themselves black. My mother, whose father appeared white to all (and even HE identified as black) calls herself black as well. Her attitude is, "everybody wants to be everything else, rather than just black."
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Post by discoprincess on Nov 25, 2014 11:31:43 GMT -4
If Gabriel has made racial slurs, then that's unacceptable. However...this is coming from Halle, who is crazy as hell, so I'm not prepared to accept it as the truth. Anyway, even though I know Halle has said in the past that she considers Nahla to be "black", she's not. She's a quarter black and three quarters white, and her father has fairly light hair. It's not surprising to me that her hair might turn a bit blonde in the middle of the summer in California. I have to disagree with this. It's up to Nahla to decide how she will identify herself. Exactly, but right now Halle is determining Nahla's identity. I wonder do Halle and Gabriel even agree on how to identify Nahla? Did they not have a discussion before Nahla was born? Did they (especially Gabriel) not think about some of the complications that may arise from having a mixed-race* child? Halle herself should know very well from personal experience what types of struggles Nahla may face. *I know Halle considers Nahla as black; I am using this term to signify that the kid is technically biracial.
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wilbert
Blueblood
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Jul 4, 2006 14:33:43 GMT -4
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Post by wilbert on Nov 25, 2014 11:51:06 GMT -4
I'm convinced Gabriel sprayed Nahla with some Sun-In and then used a flat iron on her hair because he knew it would drive Halle crazy (too late for that!) But I'm not surprised they ended up back in court over Nahla's hair. I recently read a book by Delia Ephron that was written nearly 30 years ago in which she describes her divorced female friends losing their minds when their daughters got haircuts while in their father's custody. In the book it was presented as the women feeling like the ex was doing it to them (cutting their hair) and not their daughters. Three decades later and the sentiment is still the same. Close to 50 years ago (yep, I'm old) my dad cut my younger sister's hair when my mom was out of town. My sister had long blond hair and my dad cut it into a bob. Our house was a war zone after that. I hope that Gabriel was responding to Nahla's request to change up her hair. He seems like the person more interested in parenting. Halle seems like she cant separate herself from her daughter.
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Post by azaleaqueen on Nov 25, 2014 12:05:07 GMT -4
Well, Halle wears her hair in a "white" style. No Fro for her. So Halle, STFU. Hair grows back. And I'm of the opinion that, if anything was done to the child's hair, it was at Nahla's request. I have a granddaughter who, while not part black, has unbelievable thick, frizzy hair. She's 5. She LOVES having it flatironed. The only time I got angry about something like that was when the former Mr. Azalea's new wife took my then 13-year-old daughter to Claire's and had one of her ears pierced a second time. She had no legal authority and if the ear had become infected I might have had grounds for some kind of legal action against the store.
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Post by mrspickles on Nov 25, 2014 12:16:21 GMT -4
It seems like I read somewhere that Halle subscribes to the 'one drop' theory- that any black heritage makes you 'black'. I myself subscribe to the 'chicken soup' theory - that every element of a person's heritage is equally important and is a part of what makes a unique and potentially wonderful person. Nahla is a gorgeous mix of both her parent's genes and I would love to see each and every part her be celebrated and honored.
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Post by Neurochick on Nov 25, 2014 12:36:29 GMT -4
It seems like I read somewhere that Halle subscribes to the 'one drop' theory- that any black heritage makes you 'black'. I myself subscribe to the 'chicken soup' theory - that every element of a person's heritage is equally important and is a part of what makes a unique and potentially wonderful person. Nahla is a gorgeous mix of both her parent's genes and I would love to see each and every part her be celebrated and honored. Well, the one drop theory makes sense because most people would see Halle and think she's black. The chicken soup theory sounds nice but doesn't make sense if you get stopped by the police. Just a question, did your ex husband agree to the ear piercing? Just because your granddaughter wanted something done to her hair, doesn't mean it should be done; a five year old shouldn't dictate what's done to their hair. BTW, a "fro" isn't the only "black" style. Halle probably has combination hair.
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