luminosa
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Post by luminosa on Jul 24, 2014 11:34:11 GMT -4
If she didn't know who she was, that kind of makes it worse. She thought she was a "lowly plebian" and that sucks. Yes, being approached while sweaty and prob feeling gross might not be ideal but guess what Queen Charlize? When I go to my yearly gym visit, if someone even makes eye contact with me, I'll give a little smile. Who cares? It's a nice little gesture. Get over yourself.
Also, I can't link, but everyone search Charlize and Jimmy Fallon. I think they play charades. She comes off kind of stupid.
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Post by chonies on Jul 24, 2014 11:36:24 GMT -4
I have nearly no sympathy for Charlize. It's possible she was having a bad day, or felt like hell, or just wanted to be alone, but if your income relies on people knowing your name and who you are for movies and endorsements, that's just too bad.
Here's a comparison: Universities where I teach and have taught have pools and gyms. My choices are a) go to a different gym and pay a bit more for fewer opportunities to deal with students when I'm working out, wearing swimsuits, sitting in the sauna or otherwise not in teacherlady mode, or b) use the universities' rec facilities for convenience and deal with seeing students when I'm not expecting them or would otherwise really rather not. Relevant to Charlize, if she needs work out time alone, certainly there are private trainers or private gyms available to her.
Normally I don't especially mind rude people, as long as it's more thoughtless and not cruel, because it could be chalked up to all sorts of things, and I generally reserve my critique for people who call out the behavior of others, but since there's a pattern of rumors and allegations, I'm kind of entertained.
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Post by twodollars on Jul 24, 2014 11:52:16 GMT -4
I will say this much- I do wonder at the difference between being a male versus female celebrity. I don't know that the same level of fan interaction is as easy for women. Groping/fondling- just the level of touching… I wouldn't know- but I am curious if it is easier for men- to: 1. set the boundaries (as Hiddleston did so eloquently there) and 2. to have fans be a bit more respectful/less instances of inappropriate behaviour. I know as a woman that would be one of my main concerns... Yeah, I understand that. I think female celebrities have to have more security around them than male celebs. I think I have seen Angelina Jolie (who I have heard nothing but nice things about) with security people when she is out and about. Plus, she's got those kids. With Charlize, I was also talking about movie premieres, where many stars are willing to sign autographs and take pictures. She will not bother with it, from what I hear. I will say that about Tom Cruise (who I cannot stand):at least he is nice to fans at movie premieres. Apparently, Cameron Diaz and Jason Segal refused to sign autographs or even acknowledge the fans at one of their premieres for "Sex Tape". Seriously, how hard is it to be nice for 15 minutes during a movie premiere? Less surprising about Cameron I guess who almost always make the list of worst celebrity autographs but I thought Jason would be less of a prick. On a side note, I guess Tom Hanks is a real dick when people ask for autographs as well.
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Post by famvir on Jul 24, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -4
And I go back to when I was a celeb of sorts, for all of a few months here and there, and having someone ask for an autograph when I was squatting in a doorless john, of being nearly impaled between a table and wall when we were stampeded by 300 fans, and on a train, walking to the toilet at the far end of a second car while pointedly ignoring the passengers because I had to pee. I was tired, I was cranky, and none of the bathrooms worked in my car. I found out later the car was filled with fans going to our next venue with us. I am sure many of them were talking the next day about what a bitch I was.
It seems easy to be nice, to be pleasant, "these people pay your bills." But it is hard, and I might say, impossible to do, and I only needed to pull it off for a few months! It's not just one person, it's a hundred people. It's not just one day, it's every day!
I see how upset many of you get if a stranger says, "Smile, it can't be that bad." Now imagine people saying "smile!" 50/100 times a day, and if you don't, they run and tell a story to the tabs about what a bitch you are.
For the Cam and Jason story, that's different, they are working, they ARE paid to do this, sign the autograph. But if I'm sweating on the treadmill, or taking a dump, please excuse me if I'm not up to bring nice 100 percent of the time 100 present of every day.
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Post by angelaudie on Jul 24, 2014 13:16:25 GMT -4
I will say this much- I do wonder at the difference between being a male versus female celebrity. I don't know that the same level of fan interaction is as easy for women. Groping/fondling- just the level of touching… I wouldn't know- but I am curious if it is easier for men- to: 1. set the boundaries (as Hiddleston did so eloquently there) and 2. to have fans be a bit more respectful/less instances of inappropriate behaviour. I know as a woman that would be one of my main concerns... If I was a female celeb I would worry about these things as well. With that said, male celebs aren't immune to inappropriate fans. Just a few days ago a video made the round that showed Tim McGraw swatting away a woman who was grabbing his crotch. BTW, not the first time he's had that happened. I remember a few years ago where Faith Hill yelled at a woman for grabbing her husband's junk. Hiddleston has the patience of a saint. I'm glad he's learned to set boundaries though. There was a time he didn't and it resulted in some really creepy fan encounters. As for Charlize I can understand not wanting to be bothered at the gym. I don't like socializing at the gym and I'm perplexed at people who view it as social hour. Though at premieres? Yeah, put on your big girl panties and sign autographs.
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Post by Wol on Jul 24, 2014 14:03:21 GMT -4
OT but a friend who is very high up at Marvel cannot say enough good things about Tom Hiddleston. A class act all the way around - nice to absolutely everyone.
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luminosa
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Post by luminosa on Jul 24, 2014 14:09:02 GMT -4
Famvir, I get what you're saying completely and you make really valid points. I guess that it is this story coupled with everything else we've been hearing about her that just rubs me the wrong way.
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Post by smitten on Jul 24, 2014 14:27:56 GMT -4
I don't know, autographs are one thing, and I also don't think celebrities should be expected to be "on" and willing to sign those at any time. We don't know what's going on in their lives at any given moment and they're allowed to have bad days, of course.
But, Charlize's gut reaction to someone saying "hi" to her is just totally bitchy and says a lot about her, imo. A normal, polite human would just say hi back, it's the path of least resistance.
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Post by famvir on Jul 24, 2014 14:30:16 GMT -4
Famvir, I get what you're saying completely and you make really valid points. I guess that it is this story coupled with everything else we've been hearing about her that just rubs me the wrong way. I get you, lumin, she's certainly been tarnishing that crown lately, but I can't get behind the, "She's a bitch, she didn't say hi to me when I; interrupted her dinner/accosted her at the airport/asked for her autograph on a sheet of toilet paper/caught her doing sit-ups at the gym."
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jynni
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Post by jynni on Jul 24, 2014 14:59:51 GMT -4
If you want to see real class just look at thisIt is Tom Hiddleston, who clearly does not want to stop and sign autographs and the fans are yelling at him. He remains calm and polite yet you can tell he is annoyed as hell. He handled this beautifully. Most stars would not give fans the time of day. Anyway, you can handle fans and set boundaries without being an ass. It can be done. Big difference between having to deal with another set of over zealous fans after a movie premier and being accosted at the gym in the middle of a workout. One is the equivalent of having to stay late at work and the other is like being called in to work at 3am while you're supposed to be on vacation. And considering this is more press than Ms. Mowry has received in god knows how long, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is exaggerated.
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