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Post by carrier76 on May 4, 2014 12:37:38 GMT -4
The beginning of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" bothers me for similar reasons. The spoken word intro always makes me think of him saying that to a kid.
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Post by Spinderella on May 14, 2014 15:26:12 GMT -4
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suekel
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Post by suekel on May 14, 2014 15:30:24 GMT -4
Sirius/XM has turned one of their stations into a "All MJ all the time" format to promote this new album. I was listening for a bit on my way to work Monday and they played a bunch of old stuff and then one of the songs off the new album. The highly ill-advised title? "Do You Know Where Your Children Are?". Now, I realize it was written in the 80's and was no doubt a riff on the commercials that ran during that time with that tagline, but in light of what came to be known of him, it takes on a whole new creepy meaning.
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Post by FotoStoreSheila on May 14, 2014 16:53:18 GMT -4
I can't help it. I've listened to this song 20 times today. It is my jam. It's more Off the Wall than Thriller era.
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Post by kostgard on Aug 5, 2014 23:01:45 GMT -4
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Post by discoprincess on Aug 6, 2014 0:22:52 GMT -4
I don't think Wade Robson is making this up. (Something was probably up when MJ was hanging out with a kid who dressed just like him.) Yet, I wonder whether the courts will wave him off as he came forward so many years after the fact.
I wonder whether Wade's parents had any idea this was happening.
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Post by Spinderella on Aug 6, 2014 11:20:39 GMT -4
What bothers me is that as an adult, he was a witness for MJ in the 2005 trial and nothing was brought up then or before his death. Sure he may have been paid off, but my guess is that with it would have come some sort of agreement that he wouldn't come back and sue the estate.
To me that's the problem. How is the estate supposed to acknowledge all these specific allegations or conduct any sort of inquiry when he's been gone for five years?
I feel for him if it truly happened, but I just think that ship has sailed. He had plenty of time to pursue him and the estate for restitution and just didn't.
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Post by Witchie on Aug 6, 2014 12:42:21 GMT -4
I'm sure he's hoping the estate will settle out of court, but hell has a better chance of freezing over. It was prudent when Michael was alive to fight or pay off these claims, but now? When there's no way to prove or disprove anything, they don't have to do a thing.
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iClaudia
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"When love and duty are one, grace is within you."
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Post by iClaudia on Aug 22, 2014 16:34:03 GMT -4
I was watching some old MadTV sketches on YouTube and wound up watching the 1993 interview with Oprah, and these outtakes. Back then, I truly did not believe the accusations against him, and this interview was a big part of why. Even now, it's hard to reconcile the Michael Jackson in this interview with the predator who used his position to take advantage of innocent children. In later interviews, he actually seemed crazy. I'm sure that was due to the drugs. But before they took hold, it's pretty shocking how much of a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde he had going on in his life. Something else that struck me was how much it reminded me of Princess Diana's infamous Martin Bashir interview. They both fed into their public personas, the "story" of their lives/marriages, the pop culture images that had been cultivated for and by them. Not that their wasn't truth in these stories. Michael did lose his childhood and Diana's marriage was made difficult by her popularity. But, I think there's an element of encouraging a particular narrative that was both sympathetic and safe. In Diana's case, it helped her to maintain some power. In Michael Jackson's case, it seems that it helped to keep the dark side of his nature hidden.
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Post by discoprincess on Aug 22, 2014 17:27:10 GMT -4
That time period might have been about the last time MJ was relevant in pop culture, iClaudia. I wonder what was the nature of his pathology (aside from forming inappropriate close relationships with boys). Did he have something that could be found in the DSM? Was he stuck in perpetual boyhood because of whatever he experienced growing up? I'm not excusing any wrongdoing; I just want to understand how he became that way (because as far as we know none of his other siblings grew up to be that kind of screwed-up!).
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