AuroraStar
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Post by AuroraStar on Feb 5, 2015 21:32:25 GMT -4
That Defamer article was awesome.... and I think she looks like Marlee too! ....and I still can't wrap my head around the fact that stupid author sold 100 million books. Jesus. What I've gleaned from that article: Everyone involved, save EL James, wishes desperately, ardently, avidly that they had not agreed to do this movie. So, still completely like Twilight then.
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Feb 5, 2015 22:17:54 GMT -4
Still a better love story than Twilight...oh wait.
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tszuj
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Post by tszuj on Feb 7, 2015 1:45:00 GMT -4
I think 50 Shades is an example of the power of marketing. James organised a shit ton of press before the book even found a publisher. She may suck as a writer, but she's insanely savvy at PR. I heard that it's the #1 book donated to charity shops. People buy it because they've heard all the hype about this amazing sexy, kinky book, read a bit, then get rid of it. At least with Twilight Bella is supposed to be a high school kid. I doubt she will even have Elizabeth Berkeley's career. Saved by the Bell was beloved, and she was loved on it. Showgirls is amazing trash, and after the initial embarrassment, she owned it. It was also a rebellion role for her, after being known for her goody-goody role. And, she has occasionally worked with notable directors like Oliver Stone. Plus, she seems nice and doesn't benefit from nepotism (that I know of). I think with Elizabeth Berkeley, Showgirls ended up generating goodwill in the longterm, due to the perception she'd been unfairly thrown under a bus over its failure. I remember someone from The Second Wives Club remarking on that. With Showgirls everyone was led to believe it would be a dark, serious drama, and watching it you can see that Berkeley did work hard and take it very seriously. Her own performance wasn't even bad, really. Whereas 50 Shades had a million red flags on it from day one. I'd side eye anyone getting involved with something based on that book.
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Post by deeconsistent on Feb 7, 2015 2:15:24 GMT -4
I think 50 Shades is an example of the power of marketing. James organised a shit ton of press before the book even found a publisher. She may suck as a writer, but she's insanely savvy at PR. I heard that it's the #1 book donated to charity shops. People buy it because they've heard all the hype about this amazing sexy, kinky book, read a bit, then get rid of it. At least with Twilight Bella is supposed to be a high school kid. I have never read this book and the majority of my perception of it is based on the virulent criticism it receives on the internet, but I have run into so many people IRL who are unironic fans of this series that I would not be surprised if the movie does really respectable box office. I can think of at least a dozen clients who have admitted that they are fans of the book. When I give them a quizzical response, expecting them to walk it back out of embarrassment, they just say something like the book wasn't that bad and they are looking forward to the movie. Everything about it sounds terrible, but they moved a lot of books and there was never a patina of respectability. I can completely buy that it's bad, but I'm curious to see if that's gonna keep fans out of theaters.
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Feb 7, 2015 7:21:14 GMT -4
I saw a brief interview where EL James was present. I was shocked at how old she was. A grown woman her age wrote that crap? I was expecting a teenager with brain damage.
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Post by AuroraStar on Feb 7, 2015 9:33:36 GMT -4
I saw a brief interview where EL James was present. I was shocked at how old she was. A grown woman her age wrote that crap? I was expecting a teenager with brain damage. I think that, at the least, EL James has to be deeply naive and immature about relationships. I can't profess to be super experienced and I'm probably a little naive, but even I know the relationship portrayed in the books is not some fairy tale to aspire to. The fact that she dreamed this up and then presented it as the ultimate romance that she was apparently dreaming about having with Robert Pattinson makes me give her the side eye about what she thinks a healthy relationship is all about.
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Post by Hamatron on Feb 7, 2015 12:20:35 GMT -4
E.L. James wrote 50 as Twilight fanfic with the full intention of making money off the series. I don't think she eats where she shits, so to speak. So who knows what she really thinks of relationships.
Side note: I think someone over in the movie thread recently posted the links that tell more of her story and why she sucks if that is of interest...
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Post by chiqui on Feb 7, 2015 14:05:26 GMT -4
Do you have links to this? My understanding was that the books were serialized as fanfic, and gathered a fanatic following that (with the help and encouragement of fellow fans) got published first through a quasi-fanfic publisher, then, when the bigwigs noticed the sales, through Random House. It was only then the author actually made media apperances and gave interviews. It was only later that she began to believe her own hype.
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Post by Hamatron on Feb 7, 2015 14:15:13 GMT -4
Links from the 50 Shades post:
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Post by mochakitty on Feb 22, 2015 22:54:19 GMT -4
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