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Post by kostgard on Apr 26, 2015 7:53:10 GMT -4
I hope all involved are going to get some therapy to help them deal with all the changes. There appear to be lots of residual childhood anger still present. I find that passive/aggressive tweet stuff annoying. It have something you want to say.......say it or zip it. I know that lots of people don't like Kris but I respect her direct tweet to Perez Hilton more than this. I do wonder if Burt's tweet is directed to toward his grandmother or aunt since the aunt has never seen "she/her." Just like Cher had initial issues dealing with her child's transition I wouldn't find it odd that one of the ten children has an issue. I know if either of my parents told me they were transitioning I would need some therapy to help me adapt to a new normal. I think Wife #2 is able to be so rationale is because she had decades to think about it. I'm almost positive it was aimed at Kris (I don't think the sister has met "her" because Bruce hasn't shown his sister "her" yet). I don't think anyone blames any of the kids or Kris for having trouble dealing with this. It is difficult and confusing and if Bruce lied to her for years, Kris has every right to be pissed. But Kris is totally playing the PR game to her best advantage. I don't think she has been supportive and that is understandable, but after the interview, she tweeted about how Bruce was a hero and claimed that ABC never contacted her for a statement (which is why they had "no comment" from her and supportive statements from the other ex-wives). Apparently, a rep from ABC stated that they had in fact contacted her several times for a statement/interview. While I applaud anyone who tells Perez where to stick it, it really feels like she waited until she could see how things were trending on Twitter before she said anything at all, then made a matching statement. I don't think Burt was calling anyone out for not being supportive, but rather for not being supportive in private while releasing statements in public that make it sound like they are. I admired Cher's honesty during Chaz's transition, even when it didn't cast her in the best light. I'd admire Kris a lot more if she just said something like, "This is very difficult for me, but I wish Bruce well."
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Post by angelaudie on Apr 26, 2015 9:33:25 GMT -4
Matt Lauer interviewed Kim and the interview is airing tomorrow on the Today Show. The news aired a sneak peek last night and Kim did state the family is in therapy and in many ways are still adjusting. All give this clan hell for many things but I won't for needing time to adjust Bruce's revelations. They probably felt betrayed and deceived and those feelings are understandable. It's good they are in therapy. The therapist can help process their feelings in a more healthy way. And yeah if Kris is still angry with Bruce she should own it. I would not fault her in the slightest for feeling angry. Her feelings are valid because yeah her husband of many years was not honest with her. Anybody would in her shoes would be feeling angry. Meanwhile, Wendy Williams needs to get a grip. I doubt she actually cares about Kylie. More like she's attempting to dress up her own issues in the form of concern.
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Post by Witchie on Apr 26, 2015 12:56:52 GMT -4
Angelaudie, you're nice. I'm cynical towards that clan of famewhores. If Bruce was as open with his first two wives as he claimed, then I'm not buying the Kardashian clan's need to adjust. If anything, I see them needing time to play this in the media until a very special Kardashian therapy episode is aired.
Wendy is ignorant. I hope Bruce's interview gave her some clarity. Doubt it, but I guess we'll see on Monday if she retracts her statement.
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Post by Coffeecakes on Apr 26, 2015 15:07:58 GMT -4
Then again you have to take into consideration that Kris completely dominated that relationship. She is a damn sucubus I wouldnt be surprised if he feared she would take the girls away and put him on blast to everyone. He probably told her after the divorce proceedings began and she of course didnt want to ruin the "brand" so she kept quiet until its time to get maximum pr.
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Post by chonies on Apr 26, 2015 15:26:59 GMT -4
I find myself more curious about Kris's role in this. Linda Thompson said Bruce told her 30ish years ago, and then there's all the plastic surgery, including hormonally-produced breasts. If Bruce didn't tell her "I identify as a woman" in those words, how did he explain the various choices he'd made prior to their marriage? Did he evade or obfuscate?*
And if this has already been covered, I'm sorry--there's only so much Kardashian I can handle in a day. I do agree Kris has dominated the narrative, but as horrible as she is, part of her story is kind of archetypal. If Bruce was a checked-out dad, then maybe they worked or were compatible because she's domineering and he was mashed potatoes. It might not have been super healthy, but maybe it was what got them through the day. And Kris and Bruce were married to each other for much longer than either were married to their other spouses. Kris was married to Robert Kardashian for 13 years, and Kris and Bruce were married for 24 or so. Bruce's other marriages were like eight and five years.
*And I'm not saying this in an accusatory tone, only to wonder what it must be like to be in a marriage like this.
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Post by magazinewhore on Apr 26, 2015 15:42:58 GMT -4
Yes, didn't he say he had like a 32 B chest due to the hormones before meeting Kris? How do you explain that away in the family that loves surgery?
Ok, so what's happening with Kylie, other than having giant lips? I don't follow them. How is she melting down?
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Post by Hamatron on Apr 26, 2015 16:02:58 GMT -4
Kylie is 17 and dating a 25'ish-year-old dude with a child. People are also concerned about her because she has completely redone her facial features and is starting to look like Kim, post surgeries (who knows if it's mostly makeup, but there are def. lip injections). She also shows up to events/modeling shoots dressed like Kim which, well, that involves a lot of cleavage and butt shots... last weekend she wore underwear and a body stocking to an event. She looks like a Real Housewife... but she is 17.
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Post by celerydunk on Apr 26, 2015 18:54:04 GMT -4
Angelaudie, you're nice. I'm cynical towards that clan of famewhores. If Bruce was as open with his first two wives as he claimed, then I'm not buying the Kardashian clan's need to adjust. If anything, I see them needing time to play this in the media until a very special Kardashian therapy episode is aired. Kris has been using her own son's issues (whatever they are) as a storyline on the show. She has no hesitation airing her own child's low point, she is going to milk this Bruce Jenner story for as many episodes as she can.
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Post by eclair on Apr 26, 2015 19:40:38 GMT -4
I can't believe Bruce ever had a 32 any cup size, that can't be right. I know he said that, but that can't be the right number.
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Post by Witchie on Apr 26, 2015 19:52:34 GMT -4
Watching Dateline and suck up Matt Lauer is going to interview Kim tomorrow. He's going to ask her about Bruce. I guess she's the next best thing since he didn't grant them an interview.
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