Gigiree
Sloane Ranger
Procrastinators Unite. . . Tomorrow.
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Jul 23, 2010 10:27:31 GMT -4
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Post by Gigiree on Apr 26, 2015 21:53:48 GMT -4
I can't believe Bruce ever had a 32 any cup size, that can't be right. I know he said that, but that can't be the right number. There is no way his chest was ever only 32 inches around. Hell, the last time I wore a 32 B cup, I was in high school and weighed 125 pounds. I have to wonder how long it takes for the breasts to shrink after ending hormones. Maybe there wasn't much left when Kris and Bruce hooked up.
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Post by FotoStoreSheila on Apr 26, 2015 22:10:56 GMT -4
He said 36 B in the interview
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Post by scarlet on Apr 26, 2015 22:38:48 GMT -4
Angelaudie, you're nice. I'm cynical towards that clan of famewhores. If Bruce was as open with his first two wives as he claimed, then I'm not buying the Kardashian clan's need to adjust. If anything, I see them needing time to play this in the media until a very special Kardashian therapy episode is aired. Kris has been using her own son's issues (whatever they are) as a storyline on the show. She has no hesitation airing her own child's low point, she is going to milk this Bruce Jenner story for as many episodes as she can. Of course she is--hence, none of the 'Dash Dolls' giving a statement to 20/20. I'm sure Kris would see that as giving Bruce publicity when it rightly belongs to them. And since Bruce is no longer going to be on KUWTK (and his docu series is only going to be 8 episodes), I'm sure there will be a 'very special episode' when Khloe breaks down over losing someone else, followed by a 'very special episode' when Kourtney tells her kids, and a 'very special episode' when Kris breaks down over the stress. And so on and so on...
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Post by LurkerNan on Apr 27, 2015 12:10:51 GMT -4
It would be nice if the trans celebrities could form an informal bond, like a support group. Laverne, Chaz, Alexis Arquette...they may not have much in common but this one thing, but it's a doozie. There will be more people making the decision to live life as what they perceive themselves to be once a culture of acceptance is adopted, and Bruce might just be the tipping point toward that change.
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Post by chonies on Apr 27, 2015 13:22:22 GMT -4
Has anyone read Deirdre McCloskey's memoir? I wonder what she has to say about her life, especially her perception of herself as a parent.
Anyway, topic? Not much.
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Post by scarlet on Apr 27, 2015 13:59:23 GMT -4
So through Kathie Lee Gifford, Kris is claiming she had no idea about this, like the first two wives: linkAlso, I think Kim made it sound like the Kardashians and Bruce would be the ones watching the interview together, but it wasn't *just* them: his first wife told GMA this morning she was there, too.
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Post by Martini Girl on Apr 27, 2015 15:56:39 GMT -4
Why am I not surprised that Kathie Me Gifford is BFFs w/ Kris?
I'll take Bruce's side on this one. If Kim knew, Kris knew.
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Post by kostgard on Apr 27, 2015 16:20:00 GMT -4
I'm not sure what KLG means by "new to Kris" - the fact that he wanted to transition? She couldn't have been completely clueless because - breasts. Linda Thompson even mentioned that she knew Bruce was dating women after their divorce, and she wondered how he explained his physical apearance.
When he had his Adam's apple shaved a year or so ago? Didn't that raise some red flags?
I think Kris is just full of poo in general. Her story has now changed from "ABC never contacted me for a statement" to her saying she always planned to just support him on social media. I think what Kim said on the Today show was just fine - that they love and support Bruce, but it is a difficult process and they are still working on coming to terms with everything. Kris needs to borrow her publicist.
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Post by Witchie on Apr 27, 2015 16:41:50 GMT -4
ABC has already come out and said they approached Kris for a statement and she never responded. Liar, liar, Kris.
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danadel
Blueblood
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Jun 27, 2006 1:36:55 GMT -4
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Post by danadel on Apr 27, 2015 18:37:21 GMT -4
I'm sure she at least knew as of the adam apple shaving, but I think he kind of presented it as if he had only told his family within the last year. Or at least that's how it seemed to me. Another interesting thing is that Linda Thompson, in her article, says she told Brandon and Brody 2 years ago, so I guess they've known for awhile, and Bruce later told Brandon.
I think Kris definitely dismissed or ignored things that were inconvenient to her, but it seems Bruce also downplayed stuff a lot. I don't blame her for being angry that he was transitioning to a woman, then decided to marry her for over 20 years. I would feel kinda used.
How long has the public been commenting or noticing that he was looking feminine? I remember during the KUWTK run it was put out there that his plastic surgery was to correct previous surgery that had gone wrong. I also remember when Kim and Kanye getting married a tiff about Bruce's hair, and then another time Kris had a hairstylist come to cut his hair and he was really protective of keeping it long. It makes more sense now.
In the special, his oldest son, Burt, mentions being in middle school and being scared his dad would become a woman and leave him, so it does seem that the older kids, at least were aware of something. I wonder if that would've been the hormone-taking pre-Kris period?
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