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Post by LurkerNan on Nov 24, 2015 19:12:24 GMT -4
I was talking to some co-workers today about a lot of 80's heartthrobs that still could get it: Brad Pitt, John Stamos, Rob Lowe, Dermot Mulroney, Patrick Dempsey, even Keifer Sutherland or Johnny Depp if you like them bad...
Charlie Sheen comes with a really loud needle scratch sound when added to that list.
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Post by kateln on Nov 24, 2015 20:51:39 GMT -4
I was talking to some co-workers today about a lot of 80's heartthrobs that still could get it: Brad Pitt, John Stamos, Rob Lowe, Dermot Mulroney, Patrick Dempsey, even Keifer Sutherland or Johnny Depp if you like them bad... Charlie Sheen comes with a really loud needle scratch sound when added to that list. Seriously he wasn't one of my favorites, but the man was attractive!
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Post by waytoocheerful on Nov 24, 2015 21:40:33 GMT -4
He swears it wasn't from dirty needles, but I'm not entirely sure I buy that. Who knows what he did when he high and who knows if he actually remembers everything he does when he's high. Honestly, if I had to place my money anywhere it would be needles, and he either doesn't want to admit he was shooting up and doing something as blatantly stupid as sharing needles or he did it and just doesn't remember it. He very well may not have any idea exactly how he got it. Dirty needles or unsafe sex. I'm sure he's had more of both than he can recall.
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Post by bklynred on Nov 24, 2015 21:49:06 GMT -4
That's what's wild to me: he could've contracted it in practically every way. Everything on the 'checklist' is up for debate, including IV drugs (NEVER? Not once?), tattoos (cause I'm sure he always worked with quality artists), and sex (had it constantly with wives, randos, prostitutes with lambskin, who tf uses lambskin anymore). Most prominent is the addiction, because that could've factored in any of the other risky behaviors. The man has courted disaster for decades. Hard to believe it's the same man from Platoon.
I wonder about his support system: Denise knew, but did his brother or dad? I often wonder if he & Emilio even talk, as they're never seen together and Estevez was never in the limelight even when he was at his peak. I remember reading an article once that insinuated Martin Sheen had "detached with love" in terms of Charlie, and this was years before he went on his Winning! rant.
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Post by deeconsistent on Nov 24, 2015 21:56:36 GMT -4
I'm watching Cocktails and Classics on Logo (Poseidon Adventure!) and they keep running a PSA I haven't noticed before. Youtube has been targeting me with a lot of HIV-related PSAs that I don't recall seeing until recently, too. I thought it was reported that even Charlie doesn't know how he was infected. Besides, if he knew who had infected him, wouldn't he be going off on that person on Twitter, etc., like how he rants against his ex-wife Denise? I feel like for most people, this probably won't matter. edited because OOP, bklyred just wrote a better version of the same thing.
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Nov 24, 2015 22:14:55 GMT -4
I wonder about his support system: Denise knew, but did his brother or dad? I often wonder if he & Emilio even talk, as they're never seen together and Estevez was never in the limelight even when he was at his peak. I remember reading an article once that insinuated Martin Sheen had "detached with love" in terms of Charlie, and this was years before he went on his Winning! rant. I'm too lazy to look it up, but a couple years ago Martin and Emilio did a project together that was about a father and son who had a strained relationship and then the son died and the father went on some journey in his honor and it reconnected him with his estranged son. I mean, this was a project produced by Martin and Emilio and they seemed at the time to be saying something about their own relationship... But now the 'dead son' could have been a message to Charlie. Either they knew of his status and feared for his health. Or he was 'dead' in the sense that he was so lost and out of touch (both with the family and reality). So, I don't know if that movie was a clue or a call out to Charlie. Or it might have really just been about Martin and Emilio bonding... Through FILM!!
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Post by Kaleidoscope Eyes on Nov 24, 2015 22:22:36 GMT -4
That's what's wild to me: he could've contracted it in practically every way. Everything on the 'checklist' is up for debate, including IV drugs (NEVER? Not once?), tattoos (cause I'm sure he always worked with quality artists), and sex (had it constantly with wives, randos, prostitutes with lambskin, who tf uses lambskin anymore). Most prominent is the addiction, because that could've factored in any of the other risky behaviors. The man has courted disaster for decades. Hard to believe it's the same man from Platoon. I wonder about his support system: Denise knew, but did his brother or dad? I often wonder if he & Emilio even talk, as they're never seen together and Estevez was never in the limelight even when he was at his peak. I remember reading an article once that insinuated Martin Sheen had "detached with love" in terms of Charlie, and this was years before he went on his Winning! rant. "Detached with love" was more or less the impression I got from Emilio and Martin when they were doing PR for their film, The Way. Promotion for that film coincided with Charlie's tiger's blood/rock star from Mars meltdown, so it was interesting watching them doing PR. They didn't appear to be flustered by the questions about Charlie. They handled it like it was an average, ordinary day at work--gotta promote the film and answer questions about Charlie's meltdown. Nothing new to see here, all in a day's work for them. I got the impression Charlie's issues were something they were inured to in a certain sense and I can definitely see how they'd get to that point. I don't mean it didn't seem to bother them. I'm sure it's a source of deep grief for both of them, but they seemed to have a handle on how to handle it publicly. And really, I guess it was just another work day for them while Charlie was off doing his usual thing too. I also remember another interview with just Emilio (can't remember if it was before or after the tiger's blood meltdown) and when he was asked about his relationship with Charlie, it was basically the same thing, "detached with love." ETA: GirlyGhoul, that's how the film's premise struck me too. It definitely seemed an echo of their relationships with each other.
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Post by Ginger on Nov 24, 2015 22:34:10 GMT -4
Martin's been talking about Charlie this past week like he's an American hero and how supportive he is. I don't think there has ever been any detachment.
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Post by Kaleidoscope Eyes on Nov 24, 2015 22:41:02 GMT -4
Martin's been talking about Charlie this past week like he's an American hero and how supportive he is. I don't think there has ever been any detachment. Agreed, but the rhetoric he was using before sounded more detached. There's a marked difference in how Martin comes across now, as opposed to before Charlie's announcement. At least, that's how it's coming across to me.
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Post by Yossarian on Nov 25, 2015 3:21:51 GMT -4
I always thought it was odd that Denise took in the twins when Charlie and Brooke were busy being addicts. Nothing against Denise (I think she's AWESOME for all she's done and how she's behaved in the midst of this mess) but I was surprised that Charlie's parents didn't volunteer to have the kids. Yes, they're old but they're old with money and staff. That led me to wonder where they sit in all this. Absent parents, absent grandparents?
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