roxpopuli
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Post by roxpopuli on Jul 3, 2005 11:56:31 GMT -4
I wouldn't really call him "crazy", like FUBAR or Clambo crazy--more like rage-infested. Or dangerously obnoxious. That's it--Dangerously Obnoxious Russell Crowe. We can call him the DORC for short.
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spinsterliz
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Post by spinsterliz on Jul 3, 2005 15:42:55 GMT -4
He is a complete dumbass. How in the world does he think assualting someone will be made better by buying his wife a present? "Hmm, I smashed someone with a telephone. How can I make things better? Ooh, I know-I'll buy my wife some diamonds." Yeah, like that makes a whole lots of sense. If I was his wife I would dump his ass. He's violent, and it probably won't be long before he starts treating her as badly as he treats everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2005 16:29:16 GMT -4
Maybe he had to send an apology gift to his wife for another reason.
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Gabbycatsmom
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Post by Gabbycatsmom on Jul 3, 2005 22:03:21 GMT -4
Maybe he had to send an apology gift to his wife for another reason. All the more reason to dump his sorry ass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2005 6:39:01 GMT -4
Crowe, as big an asshole as he is, is undoubtedly a great actor.
But like underjoyed I now have trouble watching the guy, because I spend all the time thinking what a complete douche he is. No matter how good he is, it stops me going out of my way to watch his movies now. It doesn't help that I think his movies tend now to be formulaic "gimme an Oscar" vehicles, which are totally missable in my eyes anyway.
Still as far as our current big-time movie stars go, Russell Crowe and Denzel Washington are the only ones that I'd consider to be consistently brilliant dramatic actors currently active.
Johnny Depp is a great comedic actor with a brilliant imagination, but I've always found him very overrated as a conventional dramatic actor ( his vastly overpraised performance in Finding Neverland only confirmed that perception in my mind). Tom Hanks, again, a fine comedic actor. But bland, boring and generally limited as a dramatic actor.
The likes of Pitt, Cruise, Clooney, the wildly inconsistent and hammy Nic Cage need not even apply, imho.
Obviously there are guys like Daniel Day-Lewis, Liam Neeson, Edward Norton, Don Cheadle and Sean Penn who many might consider as exceptional (or even moreso) than Crowe and Washington, but they aren't exactly big-time " can open a movie" movie stars. In that sense, I guess Crowe and Washington are the closest thing we have to Deniro and Pacino today. Big time movie stars, great dramatic actors, and Actors actor's.
Still, the way Crowe is sabotaging his career at the moment, I suspect there's a good chance, he'll be relegated to either character actor status ( ie Gary Oldman, who once had a decent run as a leading man) or a respected leading man who isn't really a big movie star, and can't open a movie (ie Sean Penn). I don't think either outcome will sit well with Crowe. His ego demands that he be one of the biggest movie stars in the world, not just another good actor way down in the pecking order of great offers, big budgets and scripts.
He doesn't realise that "movie star" status is dependent on the goodwill of the public. We're the ones that buy the tickets to your movies. Crowe seems to believe that being a box-office draw is some sort of god-given right. I think Val Kilmer once believed the same thing, and look at the state of his career. At his best, I think Kilmer was easily as good an actor as Crowe. But a big ego really derailed his career. Crowe might well be the next Val Kilmer.
And with guys like Christian Bale on the scene, I think Crowe is starting to look very replacable to all those Hollywood players who can't stand the guy. Bale is being primed for major movie stardom, has almost as much critical respect as Crowe, and frankly, is better looking. I can honestly see Bale eventually gettting first choice at scripts that would have once gone straight to Crowe (if Bale's Batman status can be capitalised to produce genuine movie stardom).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2005 10:41:33 GMT -4
Gary Oldman is impressive, I always wondered what happened to his career? Big talent there. And I remember Val Kilmer had the reputation fro being a real jerk too. I saw a show where he said he went back and apologized to some of the people he was a jerk to. But it looks like he is a day late and a dollar short. Hollywood is very forgiving, so he must have been a horror to work with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2005 12:14:49 GMT -4
Slightly off-topic, but in response to whitefalcon's question:
A series of bad decisions is what happened to Gary Oldman's career.
Bram Stoker's Dracula was a pretty big box office hit for Oldman in 1992, and Oldman should have used it to cement his status as a leading man.
But he went on to choose a series of films (ie Romeo Is Bleeding, Immortal Beloved), that while they enhanced his status as an actor, were completely uncommercial, and put his bankability into serious doubt.
Oldman was desperate to finance his directorial debut (Nil By Mouth), so he decided to deliberately "sell out" when nobody would finance his bleak pet project. Hence why he typecast himself in as the villian in various shitty summer blockbusters (Air Force One, Lost In Space, The Fifth Element).
Oldman might have been able to maintain a Sean Penn/Jeff Bridges type leading man status (ie, not being particularly a bankable draw, but carrying films anyway), but he also pissed off too many powerful people in Hollywood (like Steven Spielberg, whom Oldman called a shill for the Democratic party when he saw the final cut of The Contender, distrbuted by Spielber's Dreamworks studios ).
Still, I can totally see Oldman regaining some sort of leading man status in his 50's. The world always needs a couple of elderly British master thespians as leading men (ie Anthony Hopkins).
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Post by Mutagen on Jul 31, 2005 20:15:03 GMT -4
An excellent summation of RC's recent choices. I enjoy Crowe, but I frankly think he's been hitting the same note a lot lately. (Hitting it very well, but still.) That's not to say he can't hit other notes, because I'm sure he can, he just... hasn't. Dog out Oldman's career all you like, but it takes some serious cojones to look as ridiculous as he did in The Fifth Element. I doubt Crowe's massive ego would permit him to sport that hairdo, that accent or those lines. And I think that is Crowe's great Achilles heel as an actor... not that he won't appear in crappy Luc Besson movies, but that he just seems to lack the sense of "play" that other actors like Geoffrey Rush seem to call up effortlessly.
Good summary. I also think he hit bottom with his drinking problem around 1996-97. In nearly every GO article I've read since, he just sounds burned out and sorta passionless about acting. (I haven't done a scientific survey or anything, but that's the general impression I got.) Which is a damn shame, but I suspect we're getting dangerously off topic...
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Jul 31, 2005 20:28:29 GMT -4
I. can't. stop. laughing.
I have always thought that Russell Crowe was too ugly to be a leading man. He can, however, act his ass off.
Now, back to the laughing.
ETA:
Oh, god. Laughing harder. May have to go to the hospital.
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mostlyharmless
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Post by mostlyharmless on Aug 13, 2005 4:08:35 GMT -4
In todays papers it's said that he's going to pay the hotel worker $12Million!
Since he could have gone to prison and been banned from the US it was obvious he was going to pay up but twelve million?!
I'm going to start stalking him and pissing him off. As long as I have a camera crew following me I should be able to make a fortune, and only have to lose the odd tooth!
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