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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2010 13:32:24 GMT -4
On the Panorama special they were only able to show short clips of the previous celebrity interviews and one of them demonstrated how each of them responded to the question about Xenu. They all scoffed and tried to act like it was the nuttiest thing they ever heard of. So do they really believe the story or not? The Xenu story is the ultimate reveal in the cult and you have to reach the highest OT levels to ever hear it. According to their nuttiness, lower level people can actually be physically harmed by this knowledge if they hear it before they're ready. Most Scienos, including celebs, haven't achieved this level and since they're not reading the anti-Scieno press or watching South Park, they have no reason to believe the Xenu story is true. The cult tenets condone lying if it protects the cult's interests so any Scieno who asks the leaders "Hey, any truth to this Xenu stuff that reporter asked about?" will simply be lied to. Also, the cult is constantly inventing/"discovering" new Hubbard scripture, so technically it probably is true that Xenu is not the final word on what they now believe.
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Post by kostgard on Oct 23, 2010 23:11:07 GMT -4
Yep - the celebs probably aren't there yet (though I'm pretty sure that Tom, Travolta, and Kirstie Alley are Xenu-level) and even if they have heard about it and asked a clam about it, the clam will just laugh and say that it is nonsense made up by SPs to make them look bad (then I guess after that person has paid enough money and reached that level, they are all, "Sooooooo, actually the Xenu stuff is true").
And that's the rub with Scientology. It isn't really the space opera beliefs, it's the fact that they hide all this stuff from their members so they can make them pay for it. And they make sure that no one gives away the secrets for free with the whole "it will harm/make people sick if they hear it before they are ready!" bullshit.
And yes, the clams are taught to lie about this stuff, and to turn the questions around to the person asking them, screaming at them, accusing them of terrible things, all in the name of changing the subject (e.g., Jenna Elfman screaming "What are you crimes?" to someone wearing a Xenu t-shirt and asking him if he beats his wife or rapes babies).
The bottom line is you don't hear a Buddhist lie about reincarnation or a Catholic lie about the immaculate conception because they don't charge their followers to learn about their beliefs (yes, there are things like tithing, but that is generally voluntary and if you really didn't want to pay, you can go down to the local library and check out a Bible and learn about everything for free).
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Post by Babycakes on Nov 13, 2010 2:11:13 GMT -4
Cross-posting with TC thread. How well do you wogs know Scientology?
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Post by Mutagen on Nov 13, 2010 10:04:58 GMT -4
I had to laugh while reading this profile on hacker Albert Gonzalez. For background, this guy is apparently one of the more skilled cybercriminals to come along in a while, and managed to double-cross both his fellow hackers and the federal government. He also orchestrated the stealing of millions of credit card numbers from vulnerable commercial systems (i.e. from people shopping online). Despite the despicable amorality of that, this part made me laugh: Even ruthless amoral hackers have standards...
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Post by LurkerNan on Jan 2, 2011 1:10:04 GMT -4
Guess who sponsered the Rose Parade today? Yep... "Brought to you by the Church of Scientology. Know Yourself!"
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Post by Spinderella on Jan 2, 2011 2:53:34 GMT -4
Oh, hell no!
F-U, $cientology! You don't mess with my Rose Parade. It's SACRED!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2011 1:05:15 GMT -4
Gawker is reporting that a New Yorker writer is collaborating with Paul Haggis on an expose on the Co$. Haggis will write about why church appeals to Hollywood types, why they wield so much power in show biz, and Miscavige's abuses against members, all based on Haggis' own experiences and personal investigations. LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
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Post by Babycakes on Jan 6, 2011 1:08:59 GMT -4
Gawker is reporting that a New Yorker writer is collaborating with Paul Haggis on an expose on the Co$. Haggis will write about why church appeals to Hollywood types, why they wield so much power in show biz, and Miscavige's abuses against members, all based on Haggis' own experiences and personal investigations. LET THE GAMES BEGIN! Hmm... I think should put Mr. Haggis in the death pool.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 6, 2011 1:29:08 GMT -4
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Post by hamhock on Jan 6, 2011 10:30:59 GMT -4
I am DYING for some kind of Ultimate Cage Match between the CoS and the Westboro Baptist Church.
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