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Post by divasahm on Feb 8, 2011 11:57:25 GMT -4
Oh, yeha, I very much enjoyed seeing Matt Lauer. He was all even toned, seated, fair, balanced, sane. Tall. And, as leonahelmsley noted upthread, soooo glib.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Feb 8, 2011 12:01:43 GMT -4
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Post by eveschmeve on Feb 8, 2011 12:26:46 GMT -4
I thought it was interesting that Tommy Davis and Jessica Feshbach said they had proof that Amy Scobee committed adultery 5 times. They must have gotten that info from her "confidential" auditing sessions and used it against her. I know everyone suspects they use auditing information against their members, but it was interesting to see them actually put that information out to a reporter.
This part from the interview with Anne Archer enlightened me- “This isn’t a creed,” Archer said. “These are basic natural laws of life.” She described Hubbard as “an engineer” who had codified human emotional states, in order to guide people to “feel a zest and a love for life.”
I get why Scienos are so humorless. It can't be much fun to go through life and try and break down every human interaction you have into codified emotional states.
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Post by eclair on Feb 8, 2011 13:05:03 GMT -4
Isn't part of the training staring at inanimate objects trying to make them do something, or feel something? It sounds so boring. And like a setup for failure. I want to move the pen, I use my opposable thumb, fingers, hand eye coordination. It takes seconds, not hours.
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Post by angelaudie on Feb 8, 2011 20:42:06 GMT -4
The whole level thing had me shaking my head. Apparently, Jesus was merely in the "Clear" stage which, if I understand correctly, is pretty low on the clam scale. Tom Cruise, meanwhile, is supposed to be as high as you can get. To recap Jesus the guy that it is said to have turned water into wine, walked on water, healed the sick, and freaking resurrected the dead has merely achieved the the clear level and needs more niacin in order to achieve more. Tom Cruise, the guy that can't resurrect his career, is on a higher level and therefore more powerful than Jesus. Shouldn't this be people's first hint something is amiss with CO$?
Do the clams' PR people even know how stupid they sound? Yee Xenu! They make Sarah Palin look like a genius when it comes to spin!
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Post by plush on Feb 8, 2011 21:42:14 GMT -4
That article is sick! I am not really familiar with Scientology except for being a crazy cult who will drain your bank account, but the stuff that's written in this article is insane. How in the hell is this shit even allowed in this country? How is FBI only now getting involved with investigating this matter after what? hundreds of outspoken defectors, dubious deaths and years of lawsuits that have occurred in the past 30 years? IRS agreed to concede to the tax exempt status only because it was flooded with lawsuits? I have no words.
I hope they go after them and that little freak, Miscavige, full force. But if the Scienos are as powerful and rich as they are being portrayed, the chances of that happening are very slim. The trial investigating the "accidental" death of the Scieno member who died of dehydration was chilling. Apparently, there was a judge for whom it made perfect sense that Lisa McPherson should die of dehydration even though there are records saying she was suffering from a mental illness, was released against her doctor's advise, had been fed vitamins and niacin for two weeks and then just died. Nope. Nothing wrong with that picture.
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Post by Witchie on Feb 8, 2011 21:46:19 GMT -4
The whole level thing had me shaking my head. Apparently, Jesus was merely in the "Clear" stage which, if I understand correctly, is pretty low on the clam scale. Tom Cruise, meanwhile, is supposed to be as high as you can get. To recap Jesus the guy that it is said to have turned water into wine, walked on water, healed the sick, and freaking resurrected the dead has merely achieved the the clear level and needs more niacin in order to achieve more. Tom Cruise, the guy that can't resurrect his career, is on a higher level and therefore more powerful than Jesus. Shouldn't this be people's first hint something is amiss with CO$? Do the clams' PR people even know how stupid they sound? Yee Xenu! They make Sarah Palin look like a genius when it comes to spin! Bwahahaha! Excellent recap. They take batshit crazy to another level.
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Post by talkbox on Feb 9, 2011 0:11:33 GMT -4
And himself, AND founded a church spanning thousands of years.
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Post by kostgard on Feb 9, 2011 0:42:08 GMT -4
I don't know why they even point out that stuff about Jesus, Buddha, etc., only being "slightly above Clear" when once you learn the whole Xenu story, they also tell you that all religions are bullshit fed to us millions of years ago by Xenu to "confuse" us (it's all part of that crap that all the auditing is supposed to help you get rid of). South Park touches on this in their awesome explanation of Scientology. And really, that's the part I don't understand. Why don't the members realize that none of this shit makes any sense? That all the lies just don't add up and contradict each other? The only person I've really heard address that was Jason Beghe, and it took a car accident for him to see the light. He got into a car accident and was all, "How did that happen? I'm Clear. Clear's are supposed to have the power to avoid that sort of thing." Then he looked around and saw all these OT-Whatevers going on about how awesome their lives are and now they have their superpowers and never get sick - all in between bitching about their migraines and other problems. It was only at that point did he start to wonder "Why can't these people see that none of this is really working for them?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 1:53:27 GMT -4
And really, that's the part I don't understand. Why don't the members realize that none of this shit makes any sense? That all the lies just don't add up and contradict each other? Haggis mentioned this in the article. When he finally got to (paid for) the level where the Xenu story's revealed, he came out of the room incredulous. He had a "is that all there is?" moment. His handler told him he just needed to read it again (and again and again, is my guess) until it made sense. By that time, he'd invested years and more than $100,000 so that's a lot of incentive to make it make sense.
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