Celebrities & Scientology

[heyjude]

Well, Kirstie alley had a chance to be on Frasier with Kelsey Grammer . There was an epsiode in which Frasier re-connected with the old Cheers gang.

She wasn't interested. Because the show was about psychiatry, and I guess she knows the history of psychiatry as well as Tom Cruise does.

[polygal]

Yesterday, the county paper ran what I call a normal people are clams, too! story. I think the writer was a clam too, since its the fluffiest fluff piece ever.

There was a FAQ too, but I don't think that one is online. One of the questions was "Does the Co$ believe in aliens?" and they denied everything.

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I'm still puzzled that Alley's shilling for Jenny Craig-you'd think that the clams would have their own weight loss program.

[Brookie]

guinastasia said:

I'm still puzzled that Alley's shilling for Jenny Craig-you'd think that the clams would have their own weight loss program.

Aren't there additives in Jenny Craig's food, like preservatives and whatnot? Aren't those bad for you too?

Would Co$ diet plans include vitamin enemas? Isn't their vitamin ritual more of an overdose/cleansing thing? Seems I read that somewhere on the Xenu site. (I write this as I sit here at my desk, glancing suspiciously at the vitamins sitting on my desk.)

[LurkerNan]

Would Co$ diet plans include vitamin enemas?

Sad thing when sticking vitamins up your ass is preferable to health care.

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Well, they've already got their heads stuffed up there, so...

[Malle Babbe]

With regards to the whole "Clams" issue; while floating around on "Operation Clambake", I found out that it isn't so much that El-Ron believed that we are physically descended from clams, so much as we inherited engrams from them. Apparently, not only can you get engrams before you are born (from overhearing stuff in the womb, even before you have a CNS), and get them from your own Homo Sapiens past lives, but also from way back in the evolutionary ladder as well.

Instead of calling anti-$cienotologists "Seagulls", I was thinking that folks running counter-demonstrations should instead take the whole "Clambake" idea and run with it. Dress up like those kids in all of those 1960s beach party movies, all Frankie-and-Annette style. It'd get you more attention, and folks are more likely to accept pamphlets if free hot dogs are involved.

All this talk of clams keeps reminding me of the Lewis Carroll poem "The Walrus and the Carpenter" even though that involved oysters...

[monsterzero]

She wasn't interested. Because the show was about psychiatry, and I guess she knows the history of psychiatry as well as Tom Cruise does.

That's pathetic, especially considering it's what got her there in the first place. But no, she's going on her own name because, you know, everybody still remembers Veronica's Closet and the other loser productions she's done. And FAT ActreSS.

[Malle Babbe]

Can I bring up something else that annoys me? The belief that Psychiatry's annoyance with $cientology (that dollar sign trick never gets old!) is solely due to money. That the clams are depriving shrinks the world over the ability to buy another yacht, and that is why they are ticked at Tom Cruise.

Do they think that the Co$ gives its stuff away for free? A session with a shink is about $60 bucks, and a lot have sliding scales if money is tight. Auditing at the higher levels can run up to $1K! One month's worth of Zoloft $70, a "purification rundown" $2000 (as listed in that Spy magazine article someone linked.

On the issue of threatened income streams, I think it is the Clams, not the Shrinks that have to answer for themselves.

Once again folks, the shrink's goal is to eventually make themselves unneeded. The Clams want all the money they can squeeze out of you.

[Oxynia]

On the issue of threatened income streams, I think it is the Clams, not the Shrinks that have to answer for themselves.

So true, and it's not just psychiatry that threatens them. Look how insular and defensive they are against "suppressives" from the families of their members, how they allegedly strong-armed the head of the IRS into giving them tax-free status, how they also have a history of extorting funds from members on the verge of quitting...I'm sure the list goes on and on. Money is all they know.

How many real religions float multi-million-dollar yachts and build opulent celebrity centers? Gilt and glitz run contrary to the founding principles of the world's major religions. But $cientology is based on bucks, which is just another reason why it can't be considered a religion by any thinking person. As Bono once said, "the God I believe in isn't short of cash."