madangela
Blueblood
We made it! Welcome, President Biden!
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Post by madangela on Dec 29, 2016 11:37:11 GMT -4
What is the reasoning behind forced abortions? Don't they want their members to reproduce to keep the "religion" going? I saw this episode yesterday and have been wondering the same thing. I guess it is just one more layer of illogic in their belief system. (And if they don't believe in birth control, I am surprised they don't force sterilizations. Perhaps that goes too far even for Clams.) Also, am I correct in thinking that they never mention God? They just believe in a bunch of weird crap like Xenu, right? L Ron must have been laughing his ass off as he saw people adopt his sci-if ramblings as a religion. On a previous episode it seemed pretty clear that he had to dream up more and more OT levels as "parishioners" achieved them. There was a chart that basically said "TBD" after OT VIII or so. It would be ridiculous if there weren't all these tragic stories. And why are so many people in our society so vulnerable to cults? I know cults typically prey on the lonely or unsure - people in search of something genuine and meaningful. But so many who are so trusting and compliant? Mind-boggling. I remember during my long-ago college days in Seattle, there was a Dianetics office near the University of Washington. Always there were people outside it, asking every pedestrian if they wanted to take a personality test. I wonder how many lonely kids got sucked in. Next week's episode is on auditing. This should be fairly heinous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 11:43:52 GMT -4
The forced abortions were just for Sea Org members, not regular parishioners. They want the Sea Org members to focus on their duties and not have pesky children around to distract them from obeying Miscavige's every whim.
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Post by Ginger on Dec 29, 2016 12:43:38 GMT -4
What I love most about the series is how it makes the Church's tactics all look so dumb. Those 3rd rate private detectives looked so ridiculous and were accomplishing nothing. In the future, I think people who have that done to them won't find it so scary.
And I love how Leah begins each episode with the Church's slandering of the episode's guest. People have had their lives ruined by that in the past, but it's so pathetically stupid when it's out in the open.
But where are all the lawsuits? The fact that the Church is no longer deluging their enemies with litigation I think is the biggest sign that the Church is in bad condition. That was a very effective tactic. (It worked on the IRS!) The Church must no longer have the resources to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 21:11:15 GMT -4
I loved the part where she was explaining that they figured out who the private investigators were and said, "Just as they have access to information, so do I." And really, those PIs were a joke - one of them was wearing a Tommy Bahama shirt for god sake!
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Carolina
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Post by Carolina on Dec 30, 2016 10:44:07 GMT -4
Just got caught up with the last couple of episodes after having been out of town. False imprisonment and forced abortions, glad this series is able to delve deeper than Going Clear. The forced abortions were just for Sea Org members, not regular parishioners. They want the Sea Org members to focus on their duties and not have pesky children around to distract them from obeying Miscavige's every whim. There's that and also they used to provide Sea Org run daycare for Sea Org kids. According to Spanky Taylor (Travolta's former Scieno liason) in Going Clear, the conditions in the daycare were appalling. I think the higher-ups might have realized that if anything could really get them into trouble, child neglect might be it.
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tortuga
Landed Gentry
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Post by tortuga on Dec 30, 2016 13:38:13 GMT -4
My mother - who knew nothing about Scientology prior to this week - has been staying with me and we watched a couple of episodes of Reminis show. She's shocked and horrified. I haven't even told her about Xenu yet and the actual belief system going on.
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Post by prisma on Jan 3, 2017 13:44:06 GMT -4
I watched episode 1 on the A&E website, but all subsequent episodes are behind a cable logins, and I don't have cable so I can't watch. Boo. I love my Scientology stuff so it's killing me not to be able to watch this.
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Post by chonies on Jan 3, 2017 13:57:13 GMT -4
It's really good--not to rub it in, but when you get a chance to watch it, it will be totally worth it.
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Post by Ginger on Jan 3, 2017 14:41:34 GMT -4
I think it's much better than the Going Clear documentary. I didn't think Going Clear hit hard enough or was very enlightening, but that may be because I already knew everything in it (courtesy of this thread!).
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tortuga
Landed Gentry
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Post by tortuga on Jan 6, 2017 8:12:34 GMT -4
The story about the Scieno neighbor not wanting to disconnect from her SP neighbor's dog because it wouldn't understand was the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.
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