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Post by Ginger on Jan 6, 2017 12:47:50 GMT -4
It was pretty funny watching the neighbor skulk around in the yard spying on them while they were doing their interviews.
This episode was so sad because you knew from the beginning that Colin was going to have a tragic ending. How terrible that I was slightly relieved at the end that he died in an accident and not by suicide.
The poor Executive Producer, Alex, was so weirded out by being followed and questioned in Clearwater. Leah and Mike are obviously used to it, but how bizarre must that be? Back in the early 90s, a Time Magazine reporter did an article on Scientology, and he was not only followed, but he was also harassed and threatened in a very scary way for months afterward, which I'm sure the producers of this show are aware of. At least the stuff theya re doing now is mild by comparison.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 6, 2017 16:59:34 GMT -4
The story about the Scieno neighbor not wanting to disconnect from her SP neighbor's dog because it wouldn't understand was the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. I loved that, and that Mike Rinder just cracked up. Though I admit I would have a hard time disconnecting from a dog I liked (though I can't imagine hanging with a dog while refusing to speak to the owners). I think there is only one more episode left, and I admit that I am really going to miss it and I hope they do more. Not just because the stories of these people who were stuck in the CoS are so compelling, but I also really like the chemistry that has developed between Mike and Leah. They make a good team.
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Post by chiquita on Jan 6, 2017 18:25:28 GMT -4
I just saw on Tony Ortega's twitter a reference to tonight's 20/20 on ABC, so I looked it up. The episode is titled "Scientology: A War Without Guns", and it has this description: Ex-members of the Church of Scientology who crusade against it; actress Leah Remini discusses her fight against the Church of Scientology and her goal of making it lose its tax exempt status. I'm now giddy with anticipation!
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madangela
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Post by madangela on Jan 6, 2017 21:29:32 GMT -4
The story about the Scieno neighbor not wanting to disconnect from her SP neighbor's dog because it wouldn't understand was the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. I died at Leah telling - Aaron?? Ack, spaced on his name - "You are a FUCKING LIAR" re: the dog disconnect story. One hilarious spot in another grueling episode.
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Post by Ginger on Jan 7, 2017 0:19:49 GMT -4
The 20/20 special was awful. I turned it off halfway through. It was basically just one side making allegations against the other with no substantive explanation of the history. They spent a lot of time showing those videos of Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder fighting with those people who were stalking them because sensationalism.
If you didn't know anything about the topic, you'd think Leah and the rest really are just disgruntled people who got kicked out of the Church and now have a grudge and want to make money. Per the standards of modern journalism, they allowed the Church spokeswoman to make whatever claims she wanted without really challenging it.
It made me appreciate how well done the A&E show is.
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Post by Gigiree on Jan 7, 2017 0:49:50 GMT -4
I agree--the 20/20 special was shite. I just wanted to punch that stupid Scieno lawyer in the throat. To actually expect that the entire world is going to believe that every former church member is lying about their experiences is frickin' unreal.
High five to Leah for calling the 20/20 interviewer an assh*le.
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Post by Spinderella on Jan 7, 2017 2:48:24 GMT -4
Bummer that the 20/20 special was so horribly produced and handled.
I agree with Mike Rinder if the CO$ lost their tax exempt status they'd have even less money and less parishioners. It would really send a message that they're not being accepted as a religion and they wouldn't be able to pocket the money they get and spend it on property or other means to share the wealth amongst themselves (high ups, DM).
The last episode with Aaron and Collin was so devastating. I feel for Aaron's wife and mother not wanting to go on record. And the fact that Aaron's in-laws ignore and physically HIDE from their grandchildren that live across the street from them.
"We don't separate families." - Scientology (Yeah, bullshit)
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Post by kostgard on Jan 7, 2017 12:55:24 GMT -4
Yeah, that sucked. It was 90% recycled material from an older special and in an attempt to be "balanced" all they could trot out against Leah was the CoS current attack line of "Aren't you getting PAID??" Yeah, she's doing a TV show. People generally get paid for their work on a TV show. Same with Mike Rinder, the PAID consultant on said TV show. I'm glad Leah was done with his BS. I loved when he said, "If Miscavige were here, what would you say to him?" and she was all, "Are you shitting me with this cheesy question? Do people actually answer that?"
The only good thing I got out of it was when they mentioned that Leah is in talks for a second season.
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Post by Babycakes on Jan 7, 2017 13:36:40 GMT -4
I watched episode 1 on the A&E website, but all subsequent episodes are behind a cable logins, and I don't have cable so I can't watch. Boo. I love my Scientology stuff so it's killing me not to be able to watch this. They usually replay the previous episode before a new one airs, and Youtube has the first 3 episodes on their site. I told my mom about the doggie disconnection, and we laughed until we cried. The shunning of the grandkids made me sad though.
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Post by ElleCee on Jan 7, 2017 21:20:35 GMT -4
This whole A&E doc is fantastic. Leah and Mike are doing such a good job. From what I'm getting from it is that everyone was quite happy with Scientology under LRH but once Miscavige elbowed his way in he's tearing it apart because he's a megalomaniac. Yeah, I doubt it would last long if it lost its tax exemption.
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