GinFizz
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Post by GinFizz on Feb 28, 2016 5:18:10 GMT -4
I don't think they needed to give this crackpot any column inches, but since it's fairly clear Jonbenet's family was involved in her murder and cover-up and having been lying about it to law enforcement for 20 years, I don't exactly feel sorry for them having this all dragged up again, either.
RIP, little girl.
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Nov 30, 2024 21:57:21 GMT -4
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 11:41:38 GMT -4
It's clear? I read Perfect Murder Perfect Town and gone down the Jonbenet internet rabbit hole (watched a bunch of footage, read blogs and message boards, etc.), and the only thing that's clear to me is that Jonbenet's murder will NEVER be solved, primarily because too many investigators, politicians, media personalities, blogs, and individuals have viewed this case through their personal filters and have subsequently taken sides and protected pet theories. My own pet theory involves Fleet White being somehow involved, but I'd never assert that my suspicions are correct because the facts needed to solve this case, if they ever truly existed, are long gone thanks to the ineptitude of the initial investigation, quickly followed and coupled with the insanity of the media coverage and the advent of the internet. Nobody knows who killed Jonbenet and why, and unfortunately, nobody ever will. I just saw a click bait link on Salon- Conspiracy theorist think Katy Perry is Jon Benet Ramsey. I don't... I can't...total overload.... It is oh so wrong, but how I wish this were true. How on earth did anyone ever come up with this craziness? I can see how someone would come up with this craziness (I can only hope that doesn't mean I'm crazy!). I thinks it's a combination of wishful thinking and black and white thinking, as in, let's all pretend that this little girl wasn't brutally murdered and that bad shit doesn't happen unless evil monsters get together and make it happen. The Ramsey's wealth and connections, and the seediness of the music industry helped to fuel the imagination and create the narrative. There's an element of this type of thinking in other conspiracy theories too. Underlying the ridiculous "big bad govt is coming for your guns" narrative of the Sandy Hook conspiracy is the desire to believe that those little children weren't really gunned down and the parents aren't actually grieving. There's also the 9/11 theories that insist the passengers of the flights that crashed in DC and PA didn't really die. In other words, people don't randomly die, unpredictable things don't happen, and only bad people do bad things. Conspiracy theories can become incredibly complex, but most of them come from simplistic thought processes. |
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Post by Mugsy on Feb 28, 2016 20:54:57 GMT -4
Is that what it's about? Because the motive behind many conspiracy theories leave me wondering "huh?"
Example - A man in Ontario posted an online ad to sell his pickup and two guys showed up to see it. The three left for a test drive and never came back. The truck was found in at the home of one of the buyer's mother, and a body was found burned in an incinerator on the farm belonging to that same buyer. Much more evidence, but long story short - the man is dead and two guys are on trial and will likely be found guilty.
Yet there's a website that claims the whole thing is a hoax, using "facts" like the widow didn't shed tears and a shadow in a photo looked strange. Their reasoning is something called psyops - a psychological operation by the military to manipulate minds. But they never they say why. I mean really, why would the government go through all the trouble of faking a death, faking Facebook accounts, manipulating the media, hiring actors, etc. etc. as they claim. To what end?
Fortunately, they have very few followers. Sometimes shitty stuff happens to ordinary people.
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jmart
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Post by jmart on Feb 28, 2016 21:05:08 GMT -4
Is that what it's about? Because the motive behind many conspiracy theories leave me wondering "huh?" Example - A man in Ontario posted an online ad to sell his pickup and two guys showed up to see it. The three left for a test drive and never came back. The truck was found in at the home of one of the buyer's mother, and a body was found burned in an incinerator on the farm belonging to that same buyer. Much more evidence, but long story short - the man is dead and two guys are on trial and will likely be found guilty. Yet there's a website that claims the whole thing is a hoax, using "facts" like the widow didn't shed tears and a shadow in a photo looked strange. Their reasoning is something called psyops - a psychological operation by the military to manipulate minds. But they never they say why. I mean really, why would the government go through all the trouble of faking a death, faking Facebook accounts, manipulating the media, hiring actors, etc. etc. as they claim. To what end? Fortunately, they have very few followers. Sometimes shitty stuff happens to ordinary people. Seriously?? You're referring the to the Tim Bosma case, right? I haven't heard any of that but agree with you...why go to all the trouble? Yowza. |
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Post by Mugsy on Feb 28, 2016 21:19:08 GMT -4
Yes, the Bosma case. My husband golfs with some guys who are the gossipiest hens you'd ever met, and if they don't know something, they speculate until their crap gets quoted as fact. One of them said they "heard" that Bosma had worked in the Millard air hangar and probably saw something, so he was targeted.
So I googled that in every way possible, coming up with nothing to that effect, but did stumble upon fakeologist.com, which thinks everything is a hoax, including the Bosma case. Cray-cray. The site cites psyops as the motive.
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jmart
Lady in Waiting
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Post by jmart on Feb 28, 2016 21:24:08 GMT -4
Wow. That is next level crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 1:11:16 GMT -4
The Tim Bosma case is just so sad.
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Post by Mugsy on Feb 29, 2016 10:58:09 GMT -4
I know, with all the evidence, we're wondering what on earth the defence will be. The only thing I can think of is that they couldn't determine if it was his body in the incinerator, so technically there's no way to prove without a doubt that those guys killed him.
We also can't figure out a motive. I mean, they seemed to be looking for that specific type of truck, but let another seller go because he was a big strapping ex army guy. Did they just want to kill someone? What does the truck have to do with it? So weird.
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Post by famvir on Feb 29, 2016 11:44:49 GMT -4
Maybe they wanted that kind of truck, and also wanted to kill a guy. Two birds, one stone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 11:59:41 GMT -4
John Oliver's conspiracy video.On a sad note, Dave McGowan has died. Yes, he was a "conspiracy nut" and apparently he acted like a dick to critics of his last book, but he also had a sense of humor and I thoroughly enjoyed reading his series on Laurel Canyon. There was a good mix of fact and fiction in that one, and half the fun (for a dork like me) was trying to sort it all out.
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