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Post by Cranky Old Broad on Jan 22, 2009 17:36:33 GMT -4
I guess I should have read the dust cover more carefully, Stardancer2001. I thought it was pretty much a straight fantasy novel rather than a romance and I don't generally read romance. It sure was an eye opener!  |
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Post by Auroranorth on Jan 23, 2009 15:51:55 GMT -4
Feehan's Dark series has a lot of really iffy scenes. I don't like it because her characters seem to feel that NO means, "Keep pushing, overpower her and she'll forgive you when she comes."
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Post by Cranky Old Broad on Jan 24, 2009 11:40:06 GMT -4
Very well put, Auroranorth. When I started reading one of those iffy scenes, I thought, "hmm, this is kind of hot" then as it progressed my next thought was, "Oh, she* did NOT go there!" It was disturbing, to say the least.
*She as in the author.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2009 20:32:59 GMT -4
Seriously. This author must have some serious dominance fantasies going on in her head. I read the first chapter of Dark Prince and I was pissed that the dude just swept in and snatched the heroine away like it was his right to do so. I couldn't go any further. Not my type of fun.
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Post by eleanorrigby on Feb 2, 2009 2:26:40 GMT -4
That question was from awhile ago but I just finished and really enjoyed the Sevenwaters Trilogy by Juliet Marillier which documents three generations of women with different mystical abilities. If you don't like romance you might want to skip them though, as that is heavily present though really well done.
The Riddle-Master trilogy by Patricia A. Mckillip also features a strong female protagonist who narrates the middle book.
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Post by Auroranorth on Feb 2, 2009 10:28:33 GMT -4
Are the Carpathians vampires or not? They sure seem like it to me with their need for feeding on blood and not being able to be out in the sunlight. But I appreciate when an author changes "canon" and goes in a different direction. I think they're pre-vampire, and completely turn when they don't find a mate or something. |
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Post by wallflower on Feb 2, 2009 10:33:34 GMT -4
That question was from awhile ago but I just finished and really enjoyed the Sevenwaters Trilogy by Juliet Marillier which documents three generations of women with different mystical abilities. If you don't like romance you might want to skip them though, as that is heavily present though really well done. The Riddle-Master trilogy by Patricia A. Mckillip also features a strong female protagonist who narrates the middle book. It's not sword and sorcery, but the Anne McCaffrey dragon books about Pern have fabulous female protagonists. |
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Post by eleanorrigby on Feb 2, 2009 12:55:43 GMT -4
I grew up on McCaffrey and the Pern books in particular and I love them, but I'll have to slightly disagree about her female protagonists. I find they start out really strong like Lessa did in Dragonflight, but by the end of the series they all become delegated to support players who don't have much to say in the action. This is particularly jarring with Lessa who helped F'lar run the stupid weyr and save Pern in the first book, but by the second was basically his nursemaid and remained that way for the rest of the series. Sharra, Jancis, and particularly Menolly all suffer the same fate. It is only the males in that series who are really allowed to do anything worthwhile by the end. A similar fate occurs to the female characters in the Freedom's Landing series and the Rowan series. So, I guess read the Pern books but stop before you get to the end, heh.
I've had The Forgotten Beasts of Eld by Patricia A. McKillip recommended to me as having a strong female protagonist but I haven't read it myself yet. It is a World Fantasy Award winner though and McKillip is excellent, so I imagine its pretty good.
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Post by wallflower on Feb 2, 2009 15:25:46 GMT -4
I grew up on McCaffrey and the Pern books in particular and I love them, but I'll have to slightly disagree about her female protagonists. I find they start out really strong like Lessa did in Dragonflight, but by the end of the series they all become delegated to support players who don't have much to say in the action. This is particularly jarring with Lessa who helped F'lar run the stupid weyr and save Pern in the first book, but by the second was basically his nursemaid and remained that way for the rest of the series. Sharra, Jancis, and particularly Menolly all suffer the same fate. It is only the males in that series who are really allowed to do anything worthwhile by the end. A similar fate occurs to the female characters in the Freedom's Landing series and the Rowan series. So, I guess read the Pern books but stop before you get to the end, heh. I've had The Forgotten Beasts of Eld by Patricia A. McKillip recommended to me as having a strong female protagonist but I haven't read it myself yet. It is a World Fantasy Award winner though and McKillip is excellent, so I imagine its pretty good. I have to disagree... Lessa... Well, if you've read the books, we all know the amazing journey she made to save Pern. Moretta had a similar story. I though Menolly's two books were very strong.... Brekke and Sharra were always supporting characters. The Pern books don't have exclusively female protagonists, but I think they have a lot of wonderful female protagonists. I won't complain when entire books of the series are dedicated exclusively to the female stories... |
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Post by eleanorrigby on Feb 2, 2009 16:54:43 GMT -4
Oh I agree Lessa had an amazing story in the first book. I love Dragonflight. I just find that in the rest of that series she really has nothing else to do. So I agree that Dragonflight has an excellent female protagonist, I just thought I'd mention that she doesn't play much of a role in the rest of the series. The same goes for the Menolly books, the two narrated by her are great, but after that she is pretty much Robinton's nursemaid. I just found the fact that these characters I loved pretty much become non-present as the series goes on a little disappointing is all. I agree that it is nice to see whole books dedicated to female characters! I did forget about Moretta, and I am a big fan of Nerilka's Story too, so McCaffrey is certainly an excellent source for female stories.
I keep forgetting to mention them, but the Raine Benares books by Lisa Shearin are a lot of fun. It's definitely pretty lightweight stuff, but I like Raine as a character a lot, she's really sarcastic and funny, and they have a good pace.
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